Henry Nowak murder

Metal Biker said:
Police wanted to combat misinformation...with misinformation.


Some big brains in that department, for sure. Yet some still wonder why many of us don't trust the police?
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Millions of interactions between the police and the public go without any problem...
 
Metal Biker said:
Should be zero.

You'll die on this fucking hill, won't you. Jesus wept.
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zero?

You understand police deal with the most vulnerable people at times of crisis in their lives? Often when other services have gone home for the night/weekend.

You understand the lengths I and others would go to daily to make sure people who consumed all kinds of drugs that would send them into psychotic meltdowns, excited delirium and efforts to kill themselves, were alive, many times a week. Or regularly people who had swallowed drugs prior to arrest, in attempts to conceal or take into prison?

You understand that many who die as a result of contact from police -a v broad term, were due to pre-existing health problems or suicide due to mental health crisis?

How exactly could it ever possibly be zero? It ain't a knitting circle.
 
bert38 said:
zero?

You understand police deal with the most vulnerable people at times of crisis in their lives? Often when other services have gone home for the night/weekend.

You understand the lengths I and others would go to daily to make sure people who consumed all kinds of drugs that would send them into psychotic meltdowns, excited delirium and efforts to kill themselves, were alive, many times a week. Or regularly people who had swallowed drugs prior to arrest, in attempts to conceal or take into prison?

You understand that many who die as a result of contact from police -a v broad term, were due to pre-existing health problems or suicide due to mental health crisis?

How exactly could it ever possibly be zero? It ain't a knitting circle.
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And there's no ego involved either...
 
Metal Biker said:
And there's no ego involved either...
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1 person died in custody in my 10 years.
Do you think everyone just gulped a protein shake and went home?
Or those initial processes, scene pres, witness trawl, pathology report, PSD/IOPC investigations-2 years of investigations and reviews of policy/practice to try and make sure it wouldn’t happen again.
He would’ve died wherever he was, he was v unwell -he just happened to be in a cell. Things like that will happen.
 
bert38 said:
1 person died in custody in my 10 years.
Do you think everyone just gulped a protein shake and went home?
Or those initial processes, scene pres, witness trawl, pathology report, PSD/IOPC investigations-2 years of investigations and reviews of policy/practice to try and make sure it wouldn’t happen again.
He would’ve died wherever he was, he was v unwell -he just happened to be in a cell. Things like that will happen.
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Did you then try doing a press release making the victim out to be an aggressor in order to save your department face in the public's consciousness? (You know, the whole point of the current topic in question. Stop going off on personal tangents)
 
Metal Biker said:
Did you then try doing a press release making the victim out to be an aggressor in order to save your department face in the public's consciousness? (You know, the whole point of the current topic in question. Stop going off on personal tangents)
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It’s personal because I did it. I also got two members of staff the sack-so I’m not as bias and blind as you may think.

Of course not but was that published?

Also I could write book on how corrupt senior management was in my force in the 2000s..it wasn’t GMP.
 
bert38 said:
It’s personal because I did it. I also got two members of staff the sack-so I’m not as bias and blind as you may think.

Of course not but was that published?

Also I could write book on how corrupt senior management was in my force in the 2000s..it wasn’t GMP.
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None of this has anything to do with the Henry Nowak case or Hampshire Police's attempts to spread misinformation to make out Henry Nowak was the aggressor.

That's what i'm discussing, kindly stop diverting the conversation.
 
Metal Biker said:
None of this has anything to do with the Henry Nowak case or Hampshire Police's attempts to spread misinformation to make out Henry Nowak was the aggressor.

That's what i'm discussing, kindly stop diverting the conversation.
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ok but I was initially replying to your 'yet some still wonder why many of us don't trust the police?

You weren't talking about Hamps Police then?
 
bert38 said:
ok but I was initially replying to your 'yet some still wonder why many of us don't trust the police?

You weren't talking about Hamps Police then?
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I was mostly highlighting Hampshire Police actions AND talking about all Police departments; Hampshire is just the latest example. Why you're focusing on the latter part is anyone's guess.

Some people don't trust the Police, deal with it.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
You can’t see a chest pain. You can, however, see multiple stab wounds.

It all depends on if you can be arsed to look or just tell the person claiming to be stabbed that he hasn’t, and call him mate.
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Not always

Your name has Langley in it so I reckon you know the New Inn and Ash pubs

I know of two lads stabbed in both establishments over the years and no one knew until later once the commotion had calmed down and these lads started to feel what I am going to term unwell

Both thankfully survived

I’m not defending the actions of the police officer but not all stab wounds are immediately visable
 
mayo31 said:
Not always

Your name has Langley in it so I reckon you know the New Inn and Ash pubs

I know of two lads stabbed in both establishments over the years and no one knew until later once the commotion had calmed down and these lads started to feel what I am going to term unwell

Both thankfully survived

I’m not defending the actions of the police officer but not all stab wounds are immediately visable
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They are if you look for them as part of your duty. Not checking yourself after a brawl is your decision. If you’re on the floor and pleading to a copper you’ve been stabbed, it’s on he or she to check, not just poke with a stick and say no mate.
 
Metal Biker said:
I was mostly highlighting Hampshire Police actions AND talking about all Police departments; Hampshire is just the latest example. Why you're focusing on the latter part is anyone's guess.

Some people don't trust the Police, deal with it.
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not my problem any more mate
 
bert38 said:
get your backside down to Southampton tonight-sounds like a good do.
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Back at it with the 'far right' accusations again just because of a difference of opinion.
Thank fuck you're not in the service anymore.
 
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