Henry Nowak murder

[bert38]

Police wanted to combat misinformation...with misinformation.


Some big brains in that department, for sure. Yet some still wonder why many of us don't trust the police?

Millions of interactions between the police and the public go without any problem...

 

[Metal Biker]

Millions of interactions between the police and the public go without any problem...

And when they do, innocent people usually die.

 

[bert38]

And when they do, innocent people usually die.

very low numbers in this country

 

[Metal Biker]

very low numbers in this country

Should be zero.

You'll die on this fucking hill, won't you. Jesus wept.

 

[bert38]

Should be zero.

You'll die on this fucking hill, won't you. Jesus wept.

zero?

You understand police deal with the most vulnerable people at times of crisis in their lives? Often when other services have gone home for the night/weekend.

You understand the lengths I and others would go to daily to make sure people who consumed all kinds of drugs that would send them into psychotic meltdowns, excited delirium and efforts to kill themselves, were alive, many times a week. Or regularly people who had swallowed drugs prior to arrest, in attempts to conceal or take into prison?

You understand that many who die as a result of contact from police -a v broad term, were due to pre-existing health problems or suicide due to mental health crisis?

How exactly could it ever possibly be zero? It ain't a knitting circle.

 

[Metal Biker]

zero?

You understand police deal with the most vulnerable people at times of crisis in their lives? Often when other services have gone home for the night/weekend.

You understand the lengths I and others would go to daily to make sure people who consumed all kinds of drugs that would send them into psychotic meltdowns, excited delirium and efforts to kill themselves, were alive, many times a week. Or regularly people who had swallowed drugs prior to arrest, in attempts to conceal or take into prison?

You understand that many who die as a result of contact from police -a v broad term, were due to pre-existing health problems or suicide due to mental health crisis?

How exactly could it ever possibly be zero? It ain't a knitting circle.

And there's no ego involved either...

 

[bert38]

And there's no ego involved either...

1 person died in custody in my 10 years.
Do you think everyone just gulped a protein shake and went home?
Or those initial processes, scene pres, witness trawl, pathology report, PSD/IOPC investigations-2 years of investigations and reviews of policy/practice to try and make sure it wouldn’t happen again.
He would’ve died wherever he was, he was v unwell -he just happened to be in a cell. Things like that will happen.

 

[Metal Biker]

1 person died in custody in my 10 years.
Do you think everyone just gulped a protein shake and went home?
Or those initial processes, scene pres, witness trawl, pathology report, PSD/IOPC investigations-2 years of investigations and reviews of policy/practice to try and make sure it wouldn’t happen again.
He would’ve died wherever he was, he was v unwell -he just happened to be in a cell. Things like that will happen.

Did you then try doing a press release making the victim out to be an aggressor in order to save your department face in the public's consciousness? (You know, the whole point of the current topic in question. Stop going off on personal tangents)

 

[bert38]

Did you then try doing a press release making the victim out to be an aggressor in order to save your department face in the public's consciousness? (You know, the whole point of the current topic in question. Stop going off on personal tangents)

It’s personal because I did it. I also got two members of staff the sack-so I’m not as bias and blind as you may think.

Of course not but was that published?

Also I could write book on how corrupt senior management was in my force in the 2000s..it wasn’t GMP.

 

[Metal Biker]

It’s personal because I did it. I also got two members of staff the sack-so I’m not as bias and blind as you may think.

Of course not but was that published?

Also I could write book on how corrupt senior management was in my force in the 2000s..it wasn’t GMP.

None of this has anything to do with the Henry Nowak case or Hampshire Police's attempts to spread misinformation to make out Henry Nowak was the aggressor.

That's what i'm discussing, kindly stop diverting the conversation.