City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

He's so full of shit it's untrue. Says we can't just spend what we want. Does he think we don't know that? Tony, you fucking tool - we can spend an amount which is aligned to our revenues and keeps us on the right side of FFP. That figure is a very significant one due to the fact that our revenues are shit loads higher than Arsenal's and will continue to rise exponentially you mouth-breathing fuckwit.

I've done my shift on that site this past week so someone else can take up the mantle and demolish the fucker!

Enjoyed your posts immensely mate, well done.

As for Tony who no doubt is looking in, worry about finding £2K for your season ticket instead of the £200M we are about to spunk on world class players ;-)
 
Enjoyed your posts immensely mate, well done.

As for Tony who no doubt is looking in, worry about finding £2K for your season ticket instead of the £200M we are about to spunk on world class players ;-)

Thanks ;)

He's a bit of a weirdo that Attwood fella. I've seen him slag off the Football Supporters Federation and their campaign to get ticket prices down, whereas any right-thinking football fan would be behind the idea. He sees everything regarding ticket prices as a perceived slight on Arsenal and seems to be oblivious to the fact that fan groups all over the country are prepared to put their rivalries to one side and instead work together over such an important issue.

In short, he's a ****.
 
Thanks ;)

He's a bit of a weirdo that Attwood fella. I've seen him slag off the Football Supporters Federation and their campaign to get ticket prices down, whereas any right-thinking football fan would be behind the idea. He sees everything regarding ticket prices as a perceived slight on Arsenal and seems to be oblivious to the fact that fan groups all over the country are prepared to put their rivalries to one side and instead work together over such an important issue.

In short, he's a ****.
He's an Arsenal fan so he's a **** by definition.

Have to add my congratulations on your responses as well. Brilliant work.
 
what a dick, and having reach this sentence i stopped

"Of course in objection some people will always argue that it is not fair that the bigger clubs like Arsenal and Man U, who earn their profits legitimately, can stay big and are trying to make little clubs stay small."

In the rags case clearly taking money from Nissin Cup Noodles is more legitimate than from Nissan Cars...


Oh and for the record, my dad's an Arsenal fan so no, not all Arsenal fans are c**ts...
 
what a dick, and having reach this sentence i stopped

"Of course in objection some people will always argue that it is not fair that the bigger clubs like Arsenal and Man U, who earn their profits legitimately, can stay big and are trying to make little clubs stay small."

In the rags case clearly taking money from Nissin Cup Noodles is more legitimate than from Nissan Cars...


Oh and for the record, my dad's an Arsenal fan so no, not all Arsenal fans are c**ts...

Don't forget taking money from Fly Emirates is more legitimate than Etihad Airways. After all Etihad Airways was founded using investment money from Abu Dhabi oil, whereas Fly Emirates was founded using investment money from, well, Abu Dhabi oil. See the difference?
 
And this is exactly what regulation by UEFA cannot and will not ever try to do. It will give people who have no right to spend a club's money for them the power to do that. And it will make sure that the people who do it are responsible for these policies at a rival club. What other industry would allow such a crazy state of affairs. Imagine banking, car manufacturing, anything at all allowing a committee from some organisations involved saying which model their rivals should adopt, establishing what they could spend on and how much and being able to impose fines and exclude them from markets if they didn't comply. It's madness at the start and it soon becomes corrupt and dishonest. So, are you really sure that UEFA are competent to do this? They seem to have made a right mess of it so far. So why not leave the regulation of football finance to the law?

I Agree BHR, why should financial irregularities in the football sector be any different than anywhere else.

I suppose to some extent when money has to be borrowed the sources of that investment want some sort of business plan to demonstrate how that loan can be repaid.
Again there have been several suspicious loans where certain banks took advantage of this knowledge to call in a loan at short notice to force administration of a perfectly viable company. Not unlike reducing the timeline on the investment phase of ADUG's BP for profitability.

Obviously our owner who lends money to banks has no need to disclose his BP to anyone so it must be particularly galling to have to reveal his financial plans.
Frankly I cannot see them revealing anything more than Mr K. says in his yearly address.
In fact they probably have a bit of fun baiting UEFA with false info, after all the end financial result is all that FFP can do anything about and all they can then do is audit the result rather than influence the methodology. Strange how original plans have to be changed in this modern world that has change as part of its BP and culture.
 
what a dick, and having reach this sentence i stopped

"Of course in objection some people will always argue that it is not fair that the bigger clubs like Arsenal and Man U, who earn their profits legitimately, can stay big and are trying to make little clubs stay small."

In the rags case clearly taking money from Nissin Cup Noodles is more legitimate than from Nissan Cars...


Oh and for the record, my dad's an Arsenal fan so no, not all Arsenal fans are c**ts...

You're right, they're not. I'm pretty sure PB didn't seriously mean that of course. We mustn't forget that we've got some decent Gooners that post on here who would no doubt cringe with embarrassment at some of the shite Attwood spouts.
 
Don't forget taking money from Fly Emirates is more legitimate than Etihad Airways. After all Etihad Airways was founded using investment money from Abu Dhabi oil, whereas Fly Emirates was founded using investment money from, well, Abu Dhabi oil. See the difference?
Ah silly me... it's obvious now you point it out... I think I will go and boil my head now, I'm sure that will help
 
He's an Arsenal fan so he's a **** by definition.

Have to add my congratulations on your responses as well. Brilliant work.

Cheers - like I've said previously, I've been guilty of going off on one on that site before which has negated my points somewhat. I held it together for once but my patience was seriously being tested by the end of that debate!
 
Take a bow Ted Hughes, whoever you are:

http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/44588

"I also, like many City fans, used to have a great admiration for Arsenal, but now that has disappeared completely, dut to constantly reading & hearing stuff like this coming from their supporters & management.

City’s owner has committed the great sin of investing in his football club. That’s it. In the eyes of many of the ‘big 5′ supporters, that is ‘cheating’. But of course it never used to be ‘cheating’ it used to be ‘good owenership’ compared to those who take money out.

Now taking money out is ‘good ownership’ & putting money in, is ‘bad ownership’ & Arsenal & their fans are accountants, takling about it all the time.

Sheikh Mansour hasn’t bribed referees, or fixed matches or paid for the World Cup to go to Russia, he has invested in his football club, like owners & interested parties have been doing for over 100 years, including at Arsenal, rescuing them when needed. It was never seen as a problem in football, until clubs like yours, scared of missing out on the gravy train of the Champions League, petitioned UEFA to turn it into one, & it became ‘cheating’.

But in every other type business, it is perfectly ok to invest money & the European courts would not allow any restictions, in fact what UEFA & the cartel of clubs, including Ardenal are doing, would be ‘cheating’& it would be stopped.

Now UEFA have found City guilty of investing too much money & punished them, they have changed the rules to allow other clubs to do what they have punished City for doing, but City will not be allowed to do it, as they are being punished for doing it.

And this of course is not ‘cheating’. So now Berlusconi, that virtuous Italian politician, & one of the main people behind this along with Aresenal etc, can sell AC Milan to someone with money, who can do what Sheikh Mansour did, except not be punished for it.

And you know what the funny thing is ? Apart from the blatant, flesh crawling, backslapping corruption of the cartel, involving Arsenal, Utd, etc in engineering this ridiculous set of rules, City fans don’t actually give a stuff. Why ? Because the club is making so much money that it doesn’t matter& it is only justbeginning.

They will have to find something else to stitch us up with, because ffp has failed, so when it is eventually found to be illegal, we won’t need the judgement anyway"
 
You're right, they're not. I'm pretty sure PB didn't seriously mean that of course. We mustn't forget that we've got some decent Gooners that post on here who would no doubt cringe with embarrassment at some of the shite Attwood spouts.

May I add my congrats M18CTID. Must say it is not a task I would like to do, I find that posting on the 'Agenda' thread on this forum is unlikely to have an impact on others whose views have polarised and conversion either way is impossible.

Regarding Mr A., surely this is all that he is left with, we no longer have FFP as a problem with even UEFA grudgingly admitting that we now have ended our investment phase and profitability is with us.
We are unlikely to convert him to our way of thinking so he will ignore reasonable argument, be selective about his factual 'evidence' and allow his self delusion to be fueled by any insults he may receive.

I remember the old advice that you should never argue with an idiot because he will always beat you with his experience.

As a bit of fun though I can understand why we should laugh at him but I agree that most Arsenal fans are unlikely to believe his rhetoric.
 
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Take a bow Ted Hughes, whoever you are:

http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/44588

"I also, like many City fans, used to have a great admiration for Arsenal, but now that has disappeared completely, dut to constantly reading & hearing stuff like this coming from their supporters & management.

City’s owner has committed the great sin of investing in his football club. That’s it. In the eyes of many of the ‘big 5′ supporters, that is ‘cheating’. But of course it never used to be ‘cheating’ it used to be ‘good owenership’ compared to those who take money out.

Now taking money out is ‘good ownership’ & putting money in, is ‘bad ownership’ & Arsenal & their fans are accountants, takling about it all the time.

Sheikh Mansour hasn’t bribed referees, or fixed matches or paid for the World Cup to go to Russia, he has invested in his football club, like owners & interested parties have been doing for over 100 years, including at Arsenal, rescuing them when needed. It was never seen as a problem in football, until clubs like yours, scared of missing out on the gravy train of the Champions League, petitioned UEFA to turn it into one, & it became ‘cheating’.

But in every other type business, it is perfectly ok to invest money & the European courts would not allow any restictions, in fact what UEFA & the cartel of clubs, including Ardenal are doing, would be ‘cheating’& it would be stopped.

Now UEFA have found City guilty of investing too much money & punished them, they have changed the rules to allow other clubs to do what they have punished City for doing, but City will not be allowed to do it, as they are being punished for doing it.

And this of course is not ‘cheating’. So now Berlusconi, that virtuous Italian politician, & one of the main people behind this along with Aresenal etc, can sell AC Milan to someone with money, who can do what Sheikh Mansour did, except not be punished for it.

And you know what the funny thing is ? Apart from the blatant, flesh crawling, backslapping corruption of the cartel, involving Arsenal, Utd, etc in engineering this ridiculous set of rules, City fans don’t actually give a stuff. Why ? Because the club is making so much money that it doesn’t matter& it is only justbeginning.

They will have to find something else to stitch us up with, because ffp has failed, so when it is eventually found to be illegal, we won’t need the judgement anyway"

If it's the same Ted Hughes that I think it is he's a decent poster on cityfans.net
 
Great post from Ted there.

I await a reply of "yeah, but....yeah....but its cheating still innit".

That's about the sum of their argument to be honest and probably just best ignored from now on whilst we enjoy welcoming some more world class talent to the club.
 
You''ve got to read this latest gem. To date this has to be the most bitter article by any Arsenal fan, and there's been a few.

The stadium peppercorn rent is a classic. Obviously he doesn't know about the 250 year lease on the stadium, with City paying millions a year to the council for the use of the it.

http://untold-arsenal.com/archives/44588

Articles like this one really get on my tits, he types away pretending to have any clue what he's talking about, if I was that way inclined I could tear apart his entire "article" pointing out the numerous inaccuracies, errors and lies, but frankly, who has the time? And I'm far removed from a FFP expert, so anyone with even a modicum of information about how this all really works could make this guy look like a complete buffoon.
 
Articles like this one really get on my tits, he types away pretending to have any clue what he's talking about, if I was that way inclined I could tear apart his entire "article" pointing out the numerous inaccuracies, errors and lies, but frankly, who has the time? And I'm far removed from a FFP expert, so anyone with even a modicum of information about how this all really works could make this guy look like a complete buffoon.


Aresenal and the other Historical BiG FOUR have had Champions League football and all its added finance virtually Assured each season but with City here to stay they all have to compete that bit harder for the top four now and they just can't hack it that they may not have the riches Chapions Leauge football provides as a right. Oh what a terrible world we live in making somebody havIng to compete to achieve. Let's be honest Arsenal, Liverpool and the Rags are running scared of us and Chelski. Wenger likes us to think that history of success is all that matters And a clubs revenue should be decided by how much success a club has, Rubbish Arsenal have one of the richest men in the world sat in the background in case they just need to have a big injection of cash at any time
 
I tend to take any criticism from Arsenal fans with a pinch of salt. The deluded idiots like to boast about their balance sheet seemingly happy to pay for the most expensive tickets in the league, whilst their two main shareholders - the richest man in Russia and a member of the richest family in the world - collect their profits.

Arsenal don't really have any right to accuse anyone else of cheating, being the only club who bribed their way into the top flight rather than getting there on merit.
 
Atwood is almost too funny to be true. It's as if someone has sat down and thought of every single cliché and Arsenal fan stereotype and created the comic character Tony Atwood. I can imagine him sat at his keyboard, the tapping getting every louder the angrier he gets, face dripping with snot and tears and his chest heaving with racking sobs. The very epitome of the modern gooner. I hope his haemorrhoids get infected and he shits hedgehogs for the rest of his life.
 

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