De Bruyne?

[Jazzman]

Really don't want us refusing to pay an extra £5M in KDB so we can go spend £35M on Otamendi

Neither would I. I just hope we can get KDB. I don't really care if it takes until the last day of the transfer window. He will stay for 5-6 years so what's a couple of weeks.

 

[GeorgeHeslop'sTackle.]

The club are still confident a deal will be done from what I've heard, but looks like the price is being driven up. Told it's likely to be in excess of £50m now, which is more than they had budgeted for.

Not expecting you to name any names, or break any confidences, Ric, but if this one falls through, have we any alternative options in the pipeline, or will we simply stick with Navas, and concentrate all our efforts in bringing in players to fill other positions?

To be honest I think we should call their bluff and at least threatened to walk away.

Can't understand why he hasn't gone public with a transfer request if he genuinely wants out

Doubted DeBruyne really wanted to come from the off, to be honest, think he's waiting for Bayern next year, -particularly as Guadiola looks like coming here.

Hope I'm wrong though.

 

[Gundogan's Moustache]

Well a really simple answer to that is because it's real money.

A second simple possible answer is, what if we spunk too much on DeBruyne & Juve ask to meet ? What if it's true we do want to sign Otamendi, but we have to find out how much money we need for the other deals, & whether we can then afford it ?

I imagine you can think of a good ten more possibilities yourself.

We wouldn't have to be budgeting if we could move a player on without it being a loan with option to buy

 

[Steve68]

It's not my money but at some point I'd just walk away. The club has been saying the days of paying a City Tax on transfers are over. If Wolf don't want to sell around the price we are comfortable paying with that in mind then maybe it's time to look elsewhere.

 

[Dave S]

People act like this is Monopoly money. Soriano's job is to ensure that the club becomes able to 'wash its own face' financially. People have this impression that The Sheikh is happy to use City as a money disposal unit, but the reason he is one of the world's wealthiest men is that he knows how to keep his money and make more from it.

This is all part of that, so all you 'just pay the money' merchants, as well as being utterly naive about business, are also being critical of The Sheikh and Khaldoon for showing a modicum of financial prudence. Given the hundreds and hundreds of millions already spent, I think The Sheikh deserves a bit of slack for trying to run the club as a proper business rather than the 'plaything' that our detractors love to suggest.

sone of this thread is horrible in its binary thinking and angry ignorance.

Good post.

 

[acess87]

Best thing of this transfer would be Rummeniges stupid face along with million of Bayern fans which are very confident KDB will join them 2016 for a lower fee because of the "connection" with Wolfsburg.

 

[backforCity]

People act like this is Monopoly money. Soriano's job is to ensure that the club becomes able to 'wash its own face' financially. People have this impression that The Sheikh is happy to use City as a money disposal unit, but the reason he is one of the world's wealthiest men is that he knows how to keep his money and make more from it.

This is all part of that, so all you 'just pay the money' merchants, as well as being utterly naive about business, are also being critical of The Sheikh and Khaldoon for showing a modicum of financial prudence. Given the hundreds and hundreds of millions already spent, I think The Sheikh deserves a bit of slack for trying to run the club as a proper business rather than the 'plaything' that our detractors love to suggest.

sone of this thread is horrible in its binary thinking and angry ignorance.

Sorry for being so business naïve, despite you knowing nothing about me, or others. But, I was simply stating that some players, KDB, are worth going the extra mile for whilst others are not. Personally I do not think anybody on here is criticising the owner. In fact I, and most, are proud of the way the blues do their business.

 

[domalino]

Very big statement that. I think that once Ronaldo and Messi are past it, Neymar will collect that award on yearly basis.

If De Bruyne can keep up his performance from last year, he will be up there. Bear in mind the last 2 players to finish 3rd in Ballon d'Or - Neuer and Ribery. Last year Robben came 4th.

KDB beat all of those players to Bundesliga POTY last season.

And that was trying to get assists for 2 very average strikers. Imagine him putting those balls into Sergio.

He is definitely Ballon d'Or material if we can do well in Europe. Until we reach a semi final at least I don't think any of our players will get those kind of awards.

Also a good Euro 16 might put him right up there as well.

 

[paulchapo]

People act like this is Monopoly money. Soriano's job is to ensure that the club becomes able to 'wash its own face' financially. People have this impression that The Sheikh is happy to use City as a money disposal unit, but the reason he is one of the world's wealthiest men is that he knows how to keep his money and make more from it.

This is all part of that, so all you 'just pay the money' merchants, as well as being utterly naive about business, are also being critical of The Sheikh and Khaldoon for showing a modicum of financial prudence. Given the hundreds and hundreds of millions already spent, I think The Sheikh deserves a bit of slack for trying to run the club as a proper business rather than the 'plaything' that our detractors love to suggest.

sone of this thread is horrible in its binary thinking and angry ignorance.

I have mixed feelings on this Dave. We are of course eternally grateful for what our owner has done for our club,i for one thought i would die without ever seeing us win a trophy again and probably would have done so without his investment.

We are however, by all accounts, the richest club in the world. We were stalled in our progress by FFP but 'reportedly' had up to 200 million to spend this transfer window and so far have spent around 65 million of it. We have fucked about in past transfer windows and lost players like Hazard because of it.Now if someone thinks De Bruyne will improve our team and the going rate is 50 million i say stop fucking about and get it done! The alternative is he spends another year at his club and then gets snapped up by one of our rivals.

I know this may seem a little impatient but we ARE owned by someone worth an estimated 500 billion and a lot of us,yourself included,have had to put up with 35 years of watching substandard shite and having our noses rubbed into it too. If we want to be the biggest and best club in the world we have to pay top dollar and get the best players here before Real,Barca and Bayern do just that as nine times out of ten we will lose out to these clubs anyway if they are in for the same player.

 

[forevermancity]

People act like this is Monopoly money. Soriano's job is to ensure that the club becomes able to 'wash its own face' financially. People have this impression that The Sheikh is happy to use City as a money disposal unit, but the reason he is one of the world's wealthiest men is that he knows how to keep his money and make more from it.

This is all part of that, so all you 'just pay the money' merchants, as well as being utterly naive about business, are also being critical of The Sheikh and Khaldoon for showing a modicum of financial prudence. Given the hundreds and hundreds of millions already spent, I think The Sheikh deserves a bit of slack for trying to run the club as a proper business rather than the 'plaything' that our detractors love to suggest.

sone of this thread is horrible in its binary thinking and angry ignorance.

normally wholeheartedly agree with you on every subject but your blind faith in txiki I just cannot understand. Understand that its not as easy as people make out but surely we should be more slick in the market, he seems to be stumbling from problem to problem whilst we get mugged off in public. Sterling- he did a good job on albeit paying liverpools asking price

 

[goalmole]

I'm getting the feeling clubs are taking the piss with City and demanding top whack for their players. It's not as if we have any competition from other clubs to sign him.

With that price tag, I hope that if / when we do sign him he hits the ground running, because if he has a quiet start in a city shirt he will have a lot of pressure on his back and the media will slaughter him. Especially with the hotspot they've got for mourinho

The competition comes from the fact that Wolfsburg would quite like to keep him if they could.
In fact, this has been the complicating factor in both the Pogba and De Bruyne transfer sagas. Both players were quite settled in their respective clubs and both have a few years left on their contracts, and I,m sure if they should decide to stay at their present clubs than they would both be offered better terms by their clubs. So I can understand what our negotiators are up against. The only way a transfer ever gets done is if a) the player wants out, ala Sterling, b) the selling club want rid, c) the buying club make an out of this world offer that the selling club can't refuse d) the selling club are desperate for the cash. None of these factors seem to be in play here, hence the stalemate. The fact that our bid, if there has been one, hasn't been rejected out of had makes me hopeful and I don't know if this is going to done or not but if it is I suspect it will be for a larger fee than we originally anticipated.

 

[RS7]

I don't understand why there is such panic on this thread about the deal. Deals of this size are extremely complex and always take a long time to complete or even get close to completion. If KDB doesn't arrive, i am sure we have other suitable targets.

 

[KingVinnie]

normally wholeheartedly agree with you on every subject but your blind faith in txiki I just cannot understand. Understand that its not as easy as people make out but surely we should be more slick in the market, he seems to be stumbling from problem to problem whilst we get mugged off in public. Sterling- he did a good job on albeit paying liverpools asking price

We've not been mugged off in public once this transfer window - maybe you could make an exception for Delph but i don't think anyone has given a shit about what he did after 1 week. The media are all saying we're in for de bruyne and he should sign soon, they said we'd cooled interest in Pogba. Not that we'd been snubbed at every attempt of signing a player. Judge Txiki at the end of the window, for now it looks likely he's going to get 2/3 of his top targets, bare in mind the one we could miss out on is a future balon d'or winner and would cost over 100m.

 

[goalmole]

normally wholeheartedly agree with you on every subject but your blind faith in txiki I just cannot understand. Understand that its not as easy as people make out but surely we should be more slick in the market, he seems to be stumbling from problem to problem whilst we get mugged off in public. Sterling- he did a good job on albeit paying liverpools asking price

Just how do you get someone who isn't bothered enough to twist his clubs arm, from a club that isn't really fussed about selling that particular player, short of kidnapping him.

 

[Forzacitizens]

Always seemed to be anout money - 50 million is huge though

 

[forevermancity]

Just how do you get someone who isn't bothered enough to twist his clubs arm, from a club that isn't really fussed about selling that particular player, short of kidnapping him.

Walk away and move onto plan B. Giving plan B ample time to gel and integrate into the team. Also if that is the case I would be very disappointed if we have only just leant this with 2 weeks of the window remaining

 

[domalino]

We've not been mugged off in public once this transfer window - maybe you could make an exception for Delph but i don't think anyone has given a shit about what he did after 1 week. The media are all saying we're in for de bruyne and he should sign soon, they said we'd cooled interest in Pogba. Not that we'd been snubbed at every attempt of signing a player. Judge Txiki at the end of the window, for now it looks likely he's going to get 2/3 of his top targets, bare in mind the one we could miss out on is a future balon d'or winner and would cost over 100m.

Not to mention we haven't really lost Pogba. We may well not get him in this window, but we will try again next year. There'll be more competition I'm sure, but all our work this summer should put us in a great position. Plus maybe he'll see Sterling, Silva, Sergio and De Bruyne tearing the league apart and fancy in on the action. We'd definitely be in a better place if we could manage to win the league or break into the later stages of the CL.

 

[forevermancity]

We've not been mugged off in public once this transfer window - maybe you could make an exception for Delph but i don't think anyone has given a shit about what he did after 1 week. The media are all saying we're in for de bruyne and he should sign soon, they said we'd cooled interest in Pogba. Not that we'd been snubbed at every attempt of signing a player. Judge Txiki at the end of the window, for now it looks likely he's going to get 2/3 of his top targets, bare in mind the one we could miss out on is a future balon d'or winner and would cost over 100m.

Aye he will be judged at the end of the window but its disappointing the way we have gone about things this summer IMO, with the shackles off

 

[Neville Kneville]

We wouldn't have to be budgeting if we could move a player on without it being a loan with option to buy

Ah, so suddenly the economics of transfer deals is important.

 

[domalino]

Walk away and move onto plan B. Giving plan B ample time to gel and integrate into the team. Also if that is the case I would be very disappointed if we have only just leant this with 2 weeks of the window remaining

No. no, no no.

We only need world class players who will take us to t he next level. Plan B would be some lesser player who doesn't improve us. We'd spend 30m and be left with a small upgrade on Navas. Or we could hold our nerve, maybe cough up a bit more and get a player who would walk into the calibre of team we want to compete with.

We should only be buying players who clubs are desperate to keep hold of, because if they give them up easily, they aren't worth the money.