Rony Lopes

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Fearful Rony could be off. I understand if he wants to leave if we can't offer him genuine first team football this season, but we should still try and make him feel loved and tell him he's the future, and Navas will be gone at the end of the season.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think there's a very good chance Rony will end-up being a superior player to Navas, so to lose him permanently just for the sake of giving Navas probably 1 more season would be foolish indeed, when he has potentially 10+ years to offer us, is HG, and has been at the club since 15 y/o.

Being totally objective, a loan is definitely the best thing for his personal development, he's still quite rash with his decision making, and only started around 50% of Lille's game due to injury. A loan at one of Europe's big boys in the CL/EL would be great, not sure it'll happen though. Let's see.
 
The lad has just been promoted to the first team squad so I don't think the club will be letting him leave anytime soon. If he's got ideas on leaving to get first team football I would say that's the wrong move atm. He has the opportunity right now of training every day with some of the very best players in europe & trying to force his way into the starting eleven or going to a middle of the table European team.
 
Last year on his contract and a long way off a regular starter so we need to be objective. If he won't sign then there is no point in keeping him and we are best getting what we can. We can't keep them all.
 
If Pellegrini won't give Kelechi 10 mins when we're 3-0 up and cruising against West Brom, then the chance of Lopes getting any decent game time ahead of Silva, Sterling, Nasri, Navas and possibly De Bruyne is very slim, don't blame him for wanting to go.
 
kenzie115 said:
If Pellegrini won't give Kelechi 10 mins when we're 3-0 up and cruising against West Brom, then the chance of Lopes getting any decent game time ahead of Silva, Sterling, Nasri, Navas and possibly De Bruyne is very slim, don't blame him for wanting to go.
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Especially in his age, he needs to play as often as possible. So either loan or permanent sale, sadly. Can't see him sticking around just as a squad player, especially with our wing/AM positions completely stacked.
 
kenzie115 said:
If Pellegrini won't give Kelechi 10 mins when we're 3-0 up and cruising against West Brom, then the chance of Lopes getting any decent game time ahead of Silva, Sterling, Nasri, Navas and possibly De Bruyne is very slim, don't blame him for wanting to go.
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This whole "we were 3-0, give the kids a go" attitude is one which ignores the stage of the season we're at. We've got Chelsea up next, and the likes of Aguero and Demichelis, both of whom have a decent shot at starting next week, haven't kicked a ball in anger for City since last season. It was far more important to give them some gametime than it was to throw Iheanacho on for 15 minutes in a game we'd already won. He'd benefit very little from it in the long term.

If Lopes wants to leave in order to get himself some first team football then so be it, we'll either sell him this summer, or else we'll sign him up to a contract extension and then loan him out to a club where he can get regular games. I'd like to see him stay at the club, and given a chance to see if he can be good enough for us, but he's got to realise the quality of player at our disposal is higher than at most clubs in the world, and as such his gametime at City will be affected.
 
kenzie115 said:
If Pellegrini won't give Kelechi 10 mins when we're 3-0 up and cruising against West Brom, then the chance of Lopes getting any decent game time ahead of Silva, Sterling, Nasri, Navas and possibly De Bruyne is very slim, don't blame him for wanting to go.
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I imagine his thinking was more that Aguero has missed a big part of pre season and with Chelsea coming up on Sunday, it was considered beneficial to give him a run out and sharpen him up for that game. That would be a more of a priority than giving the youth player a run out at this point in the season.
 
Matty said:
This whole "we were 3-0, give the kids a go" attitude is one which ignores the stage of the season we're at. We've got Chelsea up next, and the likes of Aguero and Demichelis, both of whom have a decent shot at starting next week, haven't kicked a ball in anger for City since last season. It was far more important to give them some gametime than it was to throw Iheanacho on for 15 minutes in a game we'd already won. He'd benefit very little from it in the long term.

If Lopes wants to leave in order to get himself some first team football then so be it, we'll either sell him this summer, or else we'll sign him up to a contract extension and then loan him out to a club where he can get regular games. I'd like to see him stay at the club, and given a chance to see if he can be good enough for us, but he's got to realise the quality of player at our disposal is higher than at most clubs in the world, and as such his gametime at City will be affected.
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Definitely understand Aguero coming on, and to a certain extent Demichelis too, although I;d be shocked if it wasn't Kompany and Mangala against Chelsea, especially after how well they dealt with Costa in the same fixture last year. However, there was no need to Nasri to get the 10-15 mins that he did, Kelechi could have easily been used instead. What happens if Bony gets injured in training this week and Aguero has to come off on Sunday. We either use a midfielder up front or give Kelechi his first taste of Premier League football. Had he played 10 mins last night he'd have overcome the initial nerves of making his debut and be a little more relaxed on Sunday.
 
geoff clipp said:
I imagine his thinking was more that Aguero has missed a big part of pre season and with Chelsea coming up on Sunday, it was considered beneficial to give him a run out and sharpen him up for that game. That would be a more of a priority than giving the youth player a run out at this point in the season.
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And yet, I'm pretty sure we made three subs?
 
kenzie115 said:
Definitely understand Aguero coming on, and to a certain extent Demichelis too, although I;d be shocked if it wasn't Kompany and Mangala against Chelsea, especially after how well they dealt with Costa in the same fixture last year. However, there was no need to Nasri to get the 10-15 mins that he did, Kelechi could have easily been used instead. What happens if Bony gets injured in training this week and Aguero has to come off on Sunday. We either use a midfielder up front or give Kelechi his first taste of Premier League football. Had he played 10 mins last night he'd have overcome the initial nerves of making his debut and be a little more relaxed on Sunday.
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Sterling was playing wide of a front 3, Iheancaho would be far more suited to play centrally, however that's where Bony was playing, and where we intended on playing Aguero when he came on. If we'd have Bony and Iheanacho on the pitch together, then Aguero and Iheanacho later on, we'd have needed to adjust the formation, or else play someone in a position not best suited to them. Playing Iheanacho in an unfamiliar position could have done more harm than good to his confidence. Nasri was better suited to the position we needed to fill when Sterling was removed.
 
Matty said:
Sterling was playing wide of a front 3, Iheancaho would be far more suited to play centrally, however that's where Bony was playing, and where we intended on playing Aguero when he came on. If we'd have Bony and Iheanacho on the pitch together, then Aguero and Iheanacho later on, we'd have needed to adjust the formation, or else play someone in a position not best suited to them. Playing Iheanacho in an unfamiliar position could have done more harm than good to his confidence. Nasri was better suited to the position we needed to fill when Sterling was removed.
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Sterling off, Kelechi on, Silva moved left and Kelechi behind Bony/Aguero. Would have made a slight change to the formation but at 3-0 there was no risk.

I'd have actually taken Silva off, he needs protecting, Sterling needs as much game time with his new teammates as possible.
 
kenzie115 said:
Sterling off, Kelechi on, Silva moved left and Kelechi behind Bony/Aguero. Would have made a slight change to the formation but at 3-0 there was no risk.

I'd have actually taken Silva off, he needs protecting, Sterling needs as much game time with his new teammates as possible.
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That could have been an option, however we're now second guessing why Pellegrini brought off the players he did. Maybe Sterling was feeling fatigued? Toure looked like he had a slight niggle in his groin area, so perhaps replacing him with Demichelis wasn't part of the original plan? Maybe Iheanacho was earmarked to come on at some stage but circumstances forced a rethink? We're reading far too much into the simple fact that Iheanacho didn't get to come on late in yesterday's game. If that becomes a trend and, in a couple of months time, neither he nor Denayer have had any meaningful gametime then we can consider it, but not after just one match!
 
tkpeterson12 said:
Read online that Lyon has signed Valbuena. Does that help our chances of hanging on to Lopes at all?
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Yeah, he should more or less replace N'Jie (who's on his way to Spurs, and was rumoured to be vacating the place in the squad for Lopes), so Lyon probably won't be sniffing anymore. But as has been reported, there's many other clubs interested.

In lots of situations, no news is good news. But with only a year left on his contract, and the season already underway. No news is probably not good news. The longer this goes on, the less hopeful I'll be.
 
Should we sign de Bruyne, I cannot envisage both Nasri and Navas still being at the club in 12 months, so it would be short-sighted, for all parties, not to have some kind of understanding in place.
 
Gabriel said:
Should we sign de Bruyne, I cannot envisage both Nasri and Navas still being at the club in 12 months, so it would be short-sighted, for all parties, not to have some kind of understanding in place.
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Totally agree with you we need Lopes to sign and then go on loan in my opinion. With Courtois Chelsea had a similar situation and refused to send on loan but a year treading water if he did not extend. I can't see that being our clubs way but we do need to sell him on a vision and get him to sign or have a year at looking at him in house to see if he can break in the team (probably unlikely at this point) in which case I am sure he would renew. A loan with no contract extension just puts him in the shop window for all club and probably means he's gone!!
 
I just hope we get him to sign an extension before loaning him, or include a small buy back in a sale.

They can't just loan him and let his contract expire, surely
 
domalino said:
I just hope we get him to sign an extension before loaning him, or include a small buy back in a sale.

They can't just loan him and let his contract expire, surely
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Not upto us though is it ? If he won't sign, it doesn't really matter where he plays. Hopefully he'll sign a new deal but trom his point of view, unless he thinks City are going to use him, why sign ?
 
Neville Kneville said:
Not upto us though is it ? If he won't sign, it doesn't really matter where he plays. Hopefully he'll sign a new deal but trom his point of view, unless he thinks City are going to use him, why sign ?
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I'd sign with City and go on loan. Better the devil you know. He could end up dealing with devious club officials elsewhere. We are puppy dogs.
 
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