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Matt Le Tissier
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I agree with that - but what sort of value would you place on him in today's market?
Between £25-30m. Not quite a British Transfer record. The only thing that stopped him from moving was his loyalty to Southampton.
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steviemc
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Yep, 25m would prob be about right I'd guess. He had real good qualities but the way the games played today it's probable that you could make him a bit more ineffective than he was. That's not to take anything away from him - quality player.Between 25-30m. Not quite a British Transfer record. The only thing that stopped him from moving was his loyalty to Southampton.
Nightmare Walking
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I think Le Tiss would be worth an awful lot more more than 25 million in todays market. There are not many midfield players who score 100+ top flight goals (yes I know a lot were penalties). There are certainly none who have managed that feat for a club like Saints and none that made it look so classy and effortless. He was an absolutely sublime footballer.
He got a bad rep for being unfit and on the porky side, but he was that much better than everyone else, he did not need to be as fit.
I am sure that if he would have been around today with all the rewards on offer (financial, champs league etc) then he would have been a lot more dedicated. He would certainly have left Southampton to play play Champs league football.
I would go as far as to say he was the most talented English football that I ever saw and I include Gazza in that.
He got a bad rep for being unfit and on the porky side, but he was that much better than everyone else, he did not need to be as fit.
I am sure that if he would have been around today with all the rewards on offer (financial, champs league etc) then he would have been a lot more dedicated. He would certainly have left Southampton to play play Champs league football.
I would go as far as to say he was the most talented English football that I ever saw and I include Gazza in that.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Looking at that makes me think, more than any other top English team, he'd fit into ours, especially with his ability to shoot from distance. Perhaps less so with KDB seemingly done, but even so he'd thrive in our set up, with the team set up to complement his qualities.
SJC
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Brilliant player, I always thought we were gonna put a bid in for him when Alan Ball took over, as he's best spell was under Ball at the Saint's. It obviously didn't materialise and we ended up dogshit for the next 10 year's or so. Thanks Le Tiss.
Surprised by this thread.
Think he is overrated and wouldn't get in our team in a billion years. He had no defensive awareness at all, no real pace, and was inconsistent. If you recall he rarely had a brilliant game and instead had brilliant moments in a game.
Fully understand why he wasn't picked at national level. You cannot build a team around a luxury player who might turn up but might also walk around the pitch doing nowt
In the modern game with its pace and full team defensive structures he would be lucky to get into a Championship team. He's another Kinkladze whereby the memory of the spectacular has now overshadowed the reasons why he was at a club like City in the first place instead of Real Madrid.
Great MOTD player, worshipped at Saints but ultimately chose to not be world class. Had the talent but none if the application
Think he is overrated and wouldn't get in our team in a billion years. He had no defensive awareness at all, no real pace, and was inconsistent. If you recall he rarely had a brilliant game and instead had brilliant moments in a game.
Fully understand why he wasn't picked at national level. You cannot build a team around a luxury player who might turn up but might also walk around the pitch doing nowt
In the modern game with its pace and full team defensive structures he would be lucky to get into a Championship team. He's another Kinkladze whereby the memory of the spectacular has now overshadowed the reasons why he was at a club like City in the first place instead of Real Madrid.
Great MOTD player, worshipped at Saints but ultimately chose to not be world class. Had the talent but none if the application
Looking at that makes me think, more than any other top English team, he'd fit into ours, especially with his ability to shoot from distance. Perhaps less so with KDB seemingly done, but even so he'd thrive in our set up, with the team set up to complement his qualities.
The only position he could possibly play for us is the "#10" role, better than Silva? No chance. Nasri? No. Kdb? No. Would you play him there instead of sterling? No.
Like damo said, moments of magic, 85 mins of mediocrity
Don't think he'd get anywhere near our first team. He scored some quite incredible goals, one at Ewood and one at the dell where he took over the defenders head about 3 times spring to mind. However, he didn't do it consistently and was lazy when things weren't going for him. Never made much impact for England either.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Of course he couldn't supplant Silva. I would have thought my KDB reference would have given you some indication as to where I would see him playing. Out wide with a licence to roam. Certainly he'd be more direct than Nasri. He'd score goals from distance which is something we've sorely lacked in recent years, especially against teams that park the bus, like Chelsea. He'd be good cover for Sergio too. I think he'd (theoretically) raise his game around our players. His work rate wasn't the best, which is why he wouldn't even be considered by Chelsea, united or Liverpool in within the current manifestations of their playing styles. Possibly fit in at Arsenal tbf.The only position he could possibly play for us is the "#10" role, better than Silva? No chance. Nasri? No. Kdb? No. Would you play him there instead of sterling? No.
Like damo said, moments of magic, 85 mins of mediocrity
He could certainly take a penalty as well. Didnt he score something like 48/49 penalties?Of course he couldn't supplant Silva. I would have thought my KDB reference would have given you some indication as to where I would see him playing. Out wide with a licence to roam. Certainly he'd be more direct than Nasri. He'd score goals from distance which is something we've sorely lacked in recent years, especially against teams that park the bus, like Chelsea. He'd be good cover for Sergio too. I think he'd (theoretically) raise his game around our players. His work rate wasn't the best, which is why he wouldn't even be considered by Chelsea, united or Liverpool in within the current manifestations of their playing styles. Possibly fit in at Arsenal tbf.
His thread on here would be the longest in bluemoon history with people moaning that he doesn't track back.
I suppose the player in our current squad he is closest to in my opinion, is yaya.
What I mean by that is he'd go on the odd dribbling run, score some goals, possibly crucial, but not enough defensively, and no, he wasn't as good as yaya
I suppose the player in our current squad he is closest to in my opinion, is yaya.
What I mean by that is he'd go on the odd dribbling run, score some goals, possibly crucial, but not enough defensively, and no, he wasn't as good as yaya
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He was awesome for the saints but don't think he'd of made it at a bigger club, wouldn't be a prem player in todays game, I think if was about 10 years older he would be comparable to maradonna, 10 years younger no one would of heard of him.
In today's game? He only retired 12 years ago, he didn't play in the fifties for goodness sake. He would walk into any team. Also it's would have not of. :)
The prem has changed so much since then. You don't get players really these days like le tiss who can just show 10 mins of class every 90. Not questioning his class at all, but in my opinion he doesn't have the work rate to get nest a current top prem side. He'd make yaya look like a work horse.In today's game? He only retired 12 years ago, he didn't play in the fifties for goodness sake. He would walk into any team. Also it's would have not of. :)
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Well done M/cr Blue for pointing out the syntactically incorrect "would of". My other beef if players "TOWING the line". You don't pull the line, you TOE it = you stand up to the line with your TOES touching it. And as for Le Tiss, the reason he scored so many cracking goals is that he didn't weakly sidefoot the ball, as so many modern players do. It's the curse of the modern game - where has it come from/ The great strikers - Charlton, Shearer et al shot with the toe pointing down to gat max power. You see photos of players taking a penalty with the foot grotesquely turned at right angles to the body - and it's generally saved. Did Franny Lee sidefoot the ball? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
He was what was always referred to as a 'luxury' player at the time and, like most luxury players, they were hero worshipped at their respective clubs but generally their careers failed to reach the level of their individual brilliance. If you trawl through the list of flair players, those who could change a game: Duncan McKenzie, Alan Hudson, Glen Hoddle, Rodney Marsh, John Barnes etc all had good careers, underpinned by occasional unforgettable moments of brilliance, but none (maybe Barnes was the exception who lived off that goal against Brazil for his entire career) had stellar club careers and a bag full of medals. I always get the impression with Le Tissier that he was happy with his lot at Southampton, knew he was the main man, knew he would be indulged for as long as he kept producing those flashes of genius and knew that might not be the case at Leeds, Liverpool, Man U where the pressure would be on in every game.
Eccles Blue
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Hardly anything new or insightful, but just watching Le Tissier on that Premier League 100 Club and it's easy to forget just how preposterously good he was.
Not blessed with any pace, or particularly good in the air, but fuck me what a player. Hard to think of a comparable player in the modern game. The fact that he spent his whole career at Southampton just adds to the appeal. Criminal that England teams weren't built around him.
I'm even willing to overlook some of his dubious punditry on Soccer Saturday.
* Apologies if a thread already exists, but couldn't see one.
I used to love watching him play for Southampton. Wasn't he teased about the fact that he read the Guardian and did their crossword? Or am I mixing 'Le God' up with someone else?
Ric, you own the site, you shouldn't need to apologise about thread duplication. :-) You are our 'Le God'!!
Dr Mick
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Who is the more skillful / better player. MLT or Glen Hoddle? and how does Georgi Kinkladze compare?
Looking at that makes me think, more than any other top English team, he'd fit into ours, especially with his ability to shoot from distance. Perhaps less so with KDB seemingly done, but even so he'd thrive in our set up, with the team set up to complement his qualities.
He would be a little more reliable than Balotelli but still would be too much of a maverick.
BigJoe#1
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He is certainly is deservedly a legend at Southampton. Could he go any higher after scoring the last competitive goal at the Dell in the last minutes of the last game. The goal secured a 3-2 victory against Arsenal...