United Thread 2015/16

[mad4city]

Bet he(Giggs) can't wait to rip the back out of her..

More in her line to be unpacking that suitcase and tidying up, than posing for photographs.
Women! Know your place!

 

[sir baconface]

Ha ha - some of them take this football forum malarkey way too seriously ;)

This is how I see it. On RAWK you'll at least (sometimes) get some good and relatively balanced discussion about United. There's a lot of nonsense spouted that outweighs it of course but there's still that bit of insight to be found there. Bluemoon is just a massively unpleasant place to visit, virtually every United related post contains the word "rags" or some variation thereof and at least one other insult. I can't see why any rival fan would want to post there, it's an absolute cesspit. Makes me incredibly grateful that we have this place.

Boo fcukin hoo. You're lucky if it's only one. Some Bluemooners must be slacking.

 

[aguero93:20]

Boo fcukin hoo. You're lucky if it's only one. Some Bluemooners must be slacking.

I hold my hands up, I've been going easy on the deluded, over entitled, vacuous red rag scum recently, but only because their clueless ineptitude has had me pissing myself laughing on a daily basis.

 

[waspish]

De gay will be able to negotiate a contract in January with Madrid so why would he even entertain a new contract at the scum! If he wants to sign a new contract he should have his buy out clause as 10m or tell them to F off

 

[shallyman]

Don't think they are married, although De Gea and is entire family are dyed in the wool Atletico fans. Signing for Madrid is like an Everton fan joining Liverpool. His girlfriend works in the media in Madrid and made a comment that Manchester is like the back of a fridge. So this seems to be the main force behind his desire to move. Don't think that by dropping him helped matters, if anything it pushed him into the arms of Real Madrid.

 

[chedinho]

Don't think they are married, although De Gea and is entire family are dyed in the wool Atletico fans. Signing for Madrid is like an Everton fan joining Liverpool. His girlfriend works in the media in Madrid and made a comment that Manchester is like the back of a fridge. So this seems to be the main force behind his desire to move. Don't think that by dropping him helped matters, if anything it pushed him into the arms of Real Madrid.

i think you will find some of liverpools best players have been Everton fans.
Robbie Fowler for starters.Steve Gerrard too.

 

[Blue Hefner]

About the game on Saturday and its rivalry:

I'm 32 and don't ever remember United and Liverpool ever really competing with each other. United were dominant over the last 20yrs but Liverpool never challenged them like City, Arsenal and Chelsea even Blackburn over that time. And given that United didn't win the league for years before Fergusson came, I can't imagine that United ever really challenged Liverpool in the 70s/80s

I'm not a football historian so would happily be corrected but it seems that other than their 19/20 times(yawn) they have had very little, on the pitch competitive rivalry?

 

[Helmet Cole]

if hes got any sense he would fuck them off, however united might say, sign the contract or you wont play, with the euros around the corner he could sign on for the year,hell earn roughly an extra 5mil for that year then get the move he wants, or he can say fuck you, ill happily sit on the bench for 5 mil a year and get a huge signing on fee next summer to Madrid, decisions decisions

His agent will want a contract too. As with all agents it is not in his interest for his player to move for free or not renegotiate a contract , it cuts down his slice of the action. As for the talk of disharmony in the rag camp I'm pretty sure gigs will have the knives out for the turtle and will be shit stirring and leaking things to the press. Much as I can't wait for gigs to take charge at the swamp I would like to see the turtle get another two transfer windows in first.

 

[shallyman]

About the game on Saturday and its rivalry:

I'm 32 and don't ever remember United and Liverpool ever really competing with each other. United were dominant over the last 20yrs but Liverpool never challenged them like City, Arsenal and Chelsea even Blackburn over that time. And given that United didn't win the league for years before Fergusson came, I can't imagine that United ever really challenged Liverpool in the 70s/80s

I'm not a football historian so would happily be corrected but it seems that other than their 19/20 times(yawn) they have had very little, on the pitch competitive rivalry?

In the 80's and early 90's, Liverpool were the team that always put us back in our box. A cup run or title challenge was usually put to bed by them. Even in 91, when the team was turning the corner, Beardsley and Barnes would come to town and give us a dicking. Then over the next 3/4 seasons we overtook them and the derbies became closely fought battles like the classic game that ended 3-3.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Don't think they are married, although De Gea and is entire family are dyed in the wool Atletico fans. Signing for Madrid is like an Everton fan joining Liverpool. His girlfriend works in the media in Madrid and made a comment that Manchester is like the back of a fridge. So this seems to be the main force behind his desire to move. Don't think that by dropping him helped matters, if anything it pushed him into the arms of Real Madrid.

What are your thoughts on Van Gaal saying that Martial has been bought for 'the next manager'? And what sort of timescale/achievements are you looking at before a change is made?

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I hold my hands up, I've been going easy on the deluded, over entitled, vacuous red rag scum recently, but only because their clueless ineptitude has had me pissing myself laughing on a daily basis.

Ditto.
the transfer deadline day debacle re de gea had me laughing, the purchase of a young player for 60m had me literally in shock. i thought it was a joke, and when i discovered it wasn,t all i could do was laugh.cannot take in what is happening at the swamp, cant get my head round it.

one thing i can appreciate tho is how shit rooney has become.
last season TT said .." rooney is NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY UP FRONT" and dropped him to midfield.

this season TT said " we fully expect 15-20 goals from Rooney as a striker"

watching englands finest struggle under bizzarre management and dramatic loss of form in such a public manner is car crash material.

 

[aguero93:20]

Signing for Madrid is like an Everton fan joining Liverpool

Like Fowler, Gerrard and Carragher?

 

[shallyman]

Well, apparently it was Phil Neville who started thrapping over Martial back in the Moyes days. Giggs kept tabs on him ever since and put his neck on the block for LVG to make the signing. I think the comment from LVG pretty much indicates that. And that Giggs is being groomed as the next manager. I think that LVG days will be numbered as soon as the Likes of Giggs, Butt and Scholes decide he's pissed too many people off and gang up on him. I think this will happen before people get pissed off with the possession football philosophy.

 

[aguero93:20]

Well, apparently it was Phil Neville who started thrapping over Martial back in the Moyes days. Giggs kept tabs on him ever since and put his neck on the block for LVG to make the signing. I think the comment from LVG pretty much indicates that. And that Giggs is being groomed as the next manager. I think that LVG days will be numbered as soon as the Likes of Giggs, Butt and Scholes decide he's pissed too many people off and gang up on him. I think this will happen before people get pissed off with the possession football philosophy.

And you can't see the problem with the (hypothetical) scenario you've outlined above?

 

[Bluewonder]

About the game on Saturday and its rivalry:

I'm 32 and don't ever remember United and Liverpool ever really competing with each other. United were dominant over the last 20yrs but Liverpool never challenged them like City, Arsenal and Chelsea even Blackburn over that time. And given that United didn't win the league for years before Fergusson came, I can't imagine that United ever really challenged Liverpool in the 70s/80s

I'm not a football historian so would happily be corrected but it seems that other than their 19/20 times(yawn) they have had very little, on the pitch competitive rivalry?

I'm sure someone posted on here a couple of years ago indicating that the clubs had only ever finished in the top 2 positions together 4 or 5 times throughout history.

 

[ccr]

Well, apparently it was Phil Neville who started thrapping over Martial back in the Moyes days. Giggs kept tabs on him ever since and put his neck on the block for LVG to make the signing. I think the comment from LVG pretty much indicates that. And that Giggs is being groomed as the next manager. I think that Uniteds days will be numbered as soon as the Likes of Giggs, Butt and Scholes decide he's pissed. I think this will happen before people get pissed off with the boot it up to the bog brush football philosophy.

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[Blue Hefner]

In the 80's and early 90's, Liverpool were the team that always put us back in our box. A cup run or title challenge was usually put to bed by them. Even in 91, when the team was turning the corner, Beardsley and Barnes would come to town and give us a dicking. Then over the next 3/4 seasons we overtook them and the derbies became closely fought battles like the classic game that ended 3-3.

Is that specific to Utd though, couldn't say, Arsenal have the same story?

My point is that the on pitch rivalry doesn't really exist and has never really existed it's just a way of TV companies to create a bigger audience

 

[shallyman]

And you can't see the problem with the (hypothetical) scenario you've outlined above?

LVG will steady the ship, clear out all of the deadwood and South Americans, sign some solid, subservient players, but with no creativity.

Add the lack of entertainment, with his ability to piss people off, then a decision will be inevitable. Being an eternal optimist, whoever takes over from LVG will have a much better foundation to build on, than the person following SAF and Moyes.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I'm sure someone posted on here a couple of years ago indicating that the clubs had only ever finished in the top 2 positions together 4 or 5 times throughout history.

I just had a quick look at the table from the 80s and they were never really close to each other, maybe once

 

[aguero93:20]

LVG will steady the ship

This really made me laugh, cheers.