Liverpool Post Match Thread

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Simply awful from City today, in all areas. Prior to kick off the teamsheet had me concerned, with Kompany absent it seemed to me unfathomable that you'd leave Otamendi on the bench and go with a Mangala/Demichelis pairing. Demichelis had only started 1 league game all season I believe, and that was the 4-1 defeat at Spurs. Klopp's sides are all about energy, closing people down, high intensity, and not giving the man on the ball time. Why you'd go with Mangala, a player whose first touch means being closed down is always an issue, and Demichelis, who hasn't had pace for years and seems to be a player who has hit "the wall" that many defenders do where they go from being decent to way past their best very quickly indeed, is beyond me. A 2 man midfield pairing of Fernando and Toure was criminal as well given the tactics we knew we'd be up against. Fernandinho's energy and drive was required, and Toure/Fernando simply didn't have that.

Tactically Pellegrini got it horribly wrong, but the player were also simply woeful. The passing was slow and inaccurate, the game was played at snails pace, and we were second to everything, we lost the first ball, then the second ball and the third ball too. We had ample opportunities to clear the ball for all the Liverpool goals and failed to deal in a professional manner with any of the situations. It was the worst City performance I've seen for a very long time indeed.

You have to question Pellegrini's future after such an abject display. He'll see out the season you would suspect, unless the wheels truly fall off, but is he really the man to inspire us to Champion's League success, or to multiple league titles? There seems a real lack of drive, passion, and tactical awareness at times. Everyone knew how Liverpool would approach the game, it's a Klopp side, they play in the same way every week. Why we felt passing across the back in a slow manner was the right thing to do, given the players we had on the pitch, and the amount of closing down we would be facing, is a real mystery. It was a tactic doomed to failure before a ball was kicked, so why could many fans see that but not the manager?
 
Team should have been kept behind to watch a re run of Salford City v Notts County. 100% effort. Tackles, chasing down, are our boys too precious for that sort of thing?
 
IcriedwhenTueartleft said:
Well, possibly our worst performance for a good number of years. Couldn't believe the lack of get up and go after the break, offered nothing up front. I said many times last season that MDM was finished, his pace had gone and todays abject performance should mean he doesn't play again, he's clearly past it. As is possibly Toure, his influence on this team is very much waning and for him to go off at half time says a lot.
Mangala was appalling, the guy, without a top class centre back like Otamendi or VK beside him is not good enough.
I was worried when I saw that team line up, lacking in pace and set up completely the wrong way. Our 2nd 4-1 humping this season, how many teams lose 4-1 twice in a season and end up champions? Not many I'll guess.
Kolarov, if he's not offering something up front, is a liability at the back. His crossing today was poor, again....since his goal at Everton he has been poor.
Who is behind our transfer policy in terms of having the final say? Mandala & Sterling are 2 colossal wastes of nearly £90million & Fernando resorted to type today as well. Yeah yeah yeah, I know...blah blah, "Sterling is only 12 and a half, give him time" etc etc...really? He was utter pish last season for Liverpool and has had 1 good season, or half a good season to date in his professional career...long enough for us to think spending nearly £50m on him was a sound move. At best, he is average.
I've been behind MP since day one and defended him but today.....poor tactical line up played right into their hands. Even when they were spanking us 3-0 and it was nearly 4/5 he felt things weren't bad enough to make a change...astonishing. When we won the league 2 years ago we lost 3 of our first 8/9 games, those defeats were games we should have won and played quite well in...our defeats this season have been different, 2 thumping 4-1's and a 2-1 defeat by West Ham which reeked of indifference and casualness.
Luckily, it's a very open league this season and we're still right in there but jesus, we need Silva and Kompany back and playing every week and we need a fit Kun to lift us, even a 3/4 fit Kun managed to score today, conjuring up something out of nothing & giving us some hope out of an almighty mess of a performance.
Yes, I'm probably over reacting but I'm really pretty pissed off after that shambles, doesn't exactly fill you full of confidence does it? Our record against the so called big teams continues to be rank under MP.
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Superb post . Take a bow
 
Poor performance as a whole and disappointing to see the same mistakes repeated by Pelle yet again. When he joined we were sold the idea of him being "The Engineer" who perfects his tactics to suit the players available and opponent we are playing but unfortunately that couldn't be further from reality.

We got a manager who plays formations which doesn't suit our personnel, appears to pay no thought to how our opponents will play against us and my biggest annoyance is the inability to make any decisive decisions once he has sent them out to play.

Pelle is a lovely man and I appreciate he has steadied the ship, played great football at times and helped grow our "entertaining football" brand the club seems to want to sell, with other clubs fans admitting they enjoy watching us play, however I can't help think with our squad we should be doing much better and more importantly playing consistently well rather on the whim of certain players turning up on the day.
 
Liverpool could get close to the top come the season end. They've played away at ours, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Chelsea and Everton. Probably the toughest 6 grounds in the league for them and they look to be getting closer to what Klopp wants.

Disappointing how we go on about Utd being shit week in week out yet they're ahead of us.
 
Armaan said:
Liverpool could get close to the top come the season end. They've played away at ours, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Chelsea and Everton. Probably the toughest 6 grounds in the league for them and they look to be getting closer to what Klopp wants.

Disappointing how we go on about Utd being shit week in week out yet they're ahead of us.
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Fucking depressing.
 
First home game I've missed for a while, because of work and what a game to miss.
I got shown the team sheet beforehand and feared the worst seeing MDM picked before Ottamendi and Yaya protecting him. Who in the right mind sets up like that against a high pressing team. Its so obvious its embarrassing.
He is certainly an enigma our Pellers. He baffles me at times but he always remains calm and doesn't change his beliefs, (to his own detriment). We still remain in a healthy position in all competitions but we have been very fortunate in a number of games and also lucky to get the rub of the green against Borussia M and Seville at home. Our injuries are my biggest worry, how many times have Kompany, Silva and Aguero started together in the last few years? I would guess about 25% in the last 2 seasons. I just hope this serves as another wake up call like United away last season.
I'm sorry but I don't like chopping and changing managers but we need a change at the helm next summer. Its the missing link in our quest to be a dominant force. Pellers is a good manager but not an elite manager. When Klopp left Dortmond I wanted him more so than Guardiola. Guardiola or Carlo has to be a priority this summer.
 
Uptop said:
Poor performance as a whole and disappointing to see the same mistakes repeated by Pelle yet again. When he joined we were sold the idea of him being "The Engineer" who perfects his tactics to suit the players available and opponent we are playing but unfortunately that couldn't be further from reality.

We got a manager who plays formations which doesn't suit our personnel, appears to pay no thought to how our opponents will play against us and my biggest annoyance is the inability to make any decisive decisions once he has sent them out to play.

Pelle is a lovely man and I appreciate he has steadied the ship, played great football at times and helped grow our "entertaining football" brand the club seems to want to sell, with other clubs fans admitting they enjoy watching us play, however I can't help think with our squad we should be doing much better and more importantly playing consistently well rather on the whim of certain players turning up on the day.
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Our squad is pretty over rated if you ask me. Loads of average players mixed in there. Unfair on Kun and Silva who easily could be playing for Real or Barca.
 
MC ID said:
What pisses me off more than anything is that we're gonna see this performance again. Pellers will, undoubtedly, pull this shit over and over.
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This.
Many times last season I thought well at least he must have learnt his lesson now and will change things.
But he didn't , he kept on repeating the same mistakes time and time again.
Don't be surprised to see the same line up against the Saints next Saturday.
 
Armaan said:
Liverpool could get close to the top come the season end. They've played away at ours, Arsenal, Utd, Spurs, Chelsea and Everton. Probably the toughest 6 grounds in the league for them and they look to be getting closer to what Klopp wants.

Disappointing how we go on about Utd being shit week in week out yet they're ahead of us.
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Doubt it. They're a 5th or 6th place side but no better than that. We made them look a lot better than they really are.
 
Blue Haze said:
He still can't understand that his piss poor starting 11 cost us?
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When I saw the teamsheet I knew we'd struggle but the performance of pretty much everyone was below par. Well perhaps not Joe. You can't pass the ball to someone if there is nobody trying to get into space and he did make FIVE one on one saves. If they'd have gone in the score would have been VERY embarrassing.
 
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