Overcrowding on trams from Etihad

Transport links from our ground are for about 20-25000 attendances. It was bad even with the Met when we had 40-45000 attendances. Now we have 50+000 attendances it is a joke. It's not even that much better for Old Trafford (i go to the SL Grand Final there every year), the thing is there is that there are two different lines operating around the ground.

For both stadiums i find the easiest way to get back to town is to walk.

At City there should be a route to town that is shut off to cars and there should be a line of buses and taxis that can use that route only. There should be Mets (doubles only) and for an hour there should be one every 3 minutes. There then should be an underground or another type of overground rail route.

How can walking over 2 miles be the quickest way to get somewhere no matter how many people are there. Could you ever imagine this being the case in somewhere like Germany or Japan?
 
Pell not Pep ;-) said:
Thing is mate I would be stewarding their on a Saturday..then heading to a night job in town with maybe an hour or hour and half to get a bite to eat and sit down. There'd be maybe 50 young workers around the 16,17 year old age group having gone to the etihad for maybe 4 or 5 hours work at £6 per hour. They pay their bus fare, buy a sarnie and drink and are then expected to stand in the cold for 2 hours waiting for a crap transport service. No wonder the fans complain about crap service at the stadium by showsec or the bars because people leave these jobs as its not worth these crap conditions. People who are paid big money to sort out transport logistics aren't doing their job. I don't like swaering but its FUCKING DISGRACEFUL.
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Excellent point!
 
paulchapo said:
The main one is this St Peter's square fiasco. The amount of time,money and disruption caused to 'upgrade' this stop for what?? I just don't get it.All anyone wants to do is to get from A to B as quickly and safely as possible,comfort being a bonus.I can't wait to see what over two years of hell while this stop is completed turns out like!
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Yes months of disruption for the "Second City Crossing" - big deal it provides just one (yes one) extra stop at Exchange Square.

What is the bloody point of that?
 
Gray said:
Yes months of disruption for the "Second City Crossing" - big deal it provides just one (yes one) extra stop at Exchange Square.

What is the bloody point of that?
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The current trams often get stuck around Piccadilly gardens especially at rush hour. A broken down tram around there can bring the whole system to its knees. A second crossing should allow trams to continue running.

That's the real reason for it.
 
Yes new rail stations will cost millions (not sure how 2 platforms cost millions ?) but something like this is needed, with the football season lasting from Aug to May with crowds of 50,000 plus ( maybe going upto 60,000 plus with a North Stand expansion) then pop concerts on in the summer getting 60,000 plus, I bet a new station next to the ground would have a higher number of people using it then a lot of suburban stations around Manchester.
 
I get the tram to and from most games - its always rammed, but thats to be expected. Generally find the Metrolink staff to be pretty helpful most of the time.

Usually to avoid the worst queues after the game I just have a pint or two at City Sq..

Certainly better than driving IMO - either having to fork out a fortune to park, or park miles away.

Not every ground has the kind of public transport infrastructure that we do, so we should put it into perspective really. £3 return for a tram that takes you right into the stadium - not bad that in the grand scheme of things.

The "queue jump" thing pisses me off though. Not sure who that's actually for?
 
East Level 2 said:
I've been told the line is a freight line rather than a passenger line. - Not sure what difference that really makes.
They considered re-opening Park station for the Commonwealth Games but the cost of getting it up to standard was too high. Also, I think the platforms were far too narrow which is one of the reasons Ahsburys has never been advertised for use on a match day.
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Some of the people that organize the transport in Greater Manchester are shocking , To think you get the Commonwealth Games in 2002, then in the years before you shut rail stations down (Park 1995) start work on a replacement Metrolink line and fail to finish it in time for the games (finally opened 10 years later).
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
The "queue jump" thing pisses me off though. Not sure who that's actually for?
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That is for people who buy the match day metrolink season ticket, if you are paying per game you should consider buying one.

I have a concessionary pass because of my age so have to queue up in the sheep pens.

You are correct that the cost is good value, I never disputed that, it is just the inefficiency of the Metrolink that pisses me off.
 
I agree it's good value but as I'm disabled it's a nightmare trying to get on and off the trams. You get the odd person helping you get on and off but most people just try to shove on knocking others out the way.
 
kev20971 said:
Yes new rail stations will cost millions (not sure how 2 platforms cost millions ?) but something like this is needed, with the football season lasting from Aug to May with crowds of 50,000 plus ( maybe going upto 60,000 plus with a North Stand expansion) then pop concerts on in the summer getting 60,000 plus, I bet a new station next to the ground would have a higher number of people using it then a lot of suburban stations around Manchester.
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This is a good point Kev.

I reckon more people will use the Etihad Campus stop now than say other stops such as Besses Oth' The Barn.

The real cause for congestion is that a large amount of fans will use their cars (including myself)
when the option for the Tram is available...

Even though I bought the Tram Season Ticket I'm still finding myself driving there because of how unreliable the Tram service is.

Improve the reliability of the Trams with more Double-Units, Possible club incentives to not use a car?
Maybe add loyalty points to the metrolink season ticket :P

The club could push the use of Public Transport more though, and encourage us to use it.
Go on Sheikh... Etihad Monorail please :D
 
Why Always Ste said:
This is a good point Kev.

I reckon more people will use the Etihad Campus stop now than say other stops such as Besses Oth' The Barn.

The real cause for congestion is that a large amount of fans will use their cars (including myself)
when the option for the Tram is available...

Even though I bought the Tram Season Ticket I'm still finding myself driving there because of how unreliable the Tram service is.

Improve the reliability of the Trams with more Double-Units, Possible club incentives to not use a car?
Maybe add loyalty points to the metrolink season ticket :P

The club could push the use of Public Transport more though, and encourage us to use it.
Go on Sheikh... Etihad Monorail please :D
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When we first moved to the Etihad/Eastlands, My son lives in Droylsden, so my idea was to drive to Droylsden leave my car outside his and get the bus (216), but after having to walk back to Droylsden after the first couple of games I just gave up. So now if I drive I park on Ashton New Rd, a lot nearer too walk after the game. Somebody mentioned Germany before, well the difference in the way the Germans do things is, they try and cut the amount of car use by using the match ticket as a travel pass. In the UK we just put up loads of parking restrictions !
 
Do the trains still run to United halt on match days, Metrolink web site states Northen Rail will not be using the halt on 5/12 is this a one off or has the service been finished, if the halt is no longer used then there is little chance of any improvement to rail links around the Etihad. As a ex train driver/fat controller I despair of the people running public transport in Greater Manchester.
For City fans it will only improve if the club gets involved.
What do we want?
Double units.
When do we want them?
Now FFS.
 
Gray said:
Yes months of disruption for the "Second City Crossing" - big deal it provides just one (yes one) extra stop at Exchange Square.

What is the bloody point of that?
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Not about stops, having two routes across the city allows more trams to be operated per hour, currently all trains have to go up Mosley Street
 
Shocking to note that we can leave at the very end of the game & be back home in York by 6.30 whereas you can't get to Altrincham by then. An indictment of the system!!!
 
blueyorkie said:
Shocking to note that we can leave at the very end of the game & be back home in York by 6.30 whereas you can't get to Altrincham by then. An indictment of the system!!!
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It is insane isn't it? Last Saturday was the worst in a while but when it happens it is so frustrating.If i miss the 18:20pm bus from Altrincham the next one home is an hour so such a delay has a big knock on effect.
 
kramer said:
Not about stops, having two routes across the city allows more trams to be operated per hour, currently all trains have to go up Mosley Street
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Still piss poor for a area the size of Greater Manchester, believe Hamburg is around the same size in population as Gtr Manchester
and yet as urban railway system, a underground system and cross city buses, plus local buses. And Manchester is a building a "second city crossing", The next big transfer in Manchester should be to bring in guys that run and organise the transport system in Hamburg !
 
The tram after the Hull game was fantastic. A swift pint in City Sq and there was no queue, and a tram there waiting. I'm all in favour of smaller attendances now.

It's a shambles for most games though.
 
Only takes me 50 mins to cleckheaton and I leave end of the game Defo something wrong for you guys going other way
 
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