Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

[blueinsa]

Usual deluded dipper crap. I must have imagined Carroll 35m, Benteke 32m, Lallana 20m, Suarez 22m, Lovren 20m, Clyne 12m etc etc

Thanks. Next we will get the YNWA tattoo on his arm from when he was a boy statement.

Very good manager but Hughes today showed that it wasn't some tactical master class that klopp alone beat us with.

 

[coleridge]

let him manage until January if things don't improve then get rid and buy Shatov in January offer him player-manager role until end of the season

do managers get cup tied?

Stay off the weed, bro.

 

[Pam]

The worst thing is when Stoke breeze past us and no one is surprised.

 

[mancity1]

Which back 4 are you referring to?

The back 4 at end o last season, and start of this were very very strong and we've since added Otamendi who is brilliant.

The current problem is a combination of injuries, tiredness and a manager who is too loyal to Demichelis

Kolarov must be knackered sprinting down that touchline. Kompany and Mangala are injured. Zabaleta needs to get fit then we can judge him. Bit much to say he's finished. it might be next season until we see Zabaleta back at his best but he's not like Toure. He's a fit committed player

Fernandinho, Delph, Fernando all good players in my opinion. The team at the moment is totally undermined by injury to the central defenders, and by Pellegrini's reluctance to play Sagna or one of the kids there in preference to Demichelis. Any time we come up against a decent team, and Demichelis plays, we end up conceding soft goals.

Marvin , the whole squad needs revamping.

Oti and KDB seem to show so far they have a longer term future at the club but other than Kun and Silva and maybe Hart nobody else inspires me with confidence.

Ferny is good on his day but cannot like Silva cope well when pressed by quick players with a high work rate.

Zaba is well past his prime now Marvin and injuries are starting to take over as his aging legs give out more easily.

Great warrior for us but will never return to his consistent performances in past years.

Your own comments allude to players weaknesses and to focus on MDM is a bit of a cop out.

The number of repeat injuries to players , Fernando again with a hamstring again in itself suggests these players cannot be relied upon to stand up to the physicality of the premier league.

We need better and much better than Navas, Fernando , Kolorov, Sagna, Clichy, MDM , Mangala,

Of our two high quality players one is injury prone and the other too easily marked out of games that press and and have high work rate.

This combined with a manager who lacks tactical nous and an ability to inspire and motivate players spells further grief for us in the short term.

Expect some more hidings under MP with this squad.

 

[PragueBlue]

So who would you have played at central defence?

He could have altered his team selection and/or tactics so as to not hang the likes of MD out to dry. He's well past it now regardless but playing him in a high defensive line was just plain stupid.

 

[bondsman]

He isn't making the best of the tools he was given but to blame him for that isn't fair

Maybe mate but he isn't getting the best out of any of the players imo.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

A fit, focused Vinny aside and possibly Otamendi, id say all of them.

MdM finished for me and Mangala not looking like the player we thought we had signed and our full backs compared to the best in Europe are just not good enough, none of them.

Age is catching up, even with Vinny and nothing lasts forever and our defensive line needs a hell of a lot of work.

Demichelis is finished, and yet Manuel decided to keep him here and ship out a hugely promising youngster like Denayer on loan.

 

[Moveonlife]

Yesterday he said we don't need to spend in January because uor squad is enough. Today he said we only have 14/15 players available for every game. That logic...

 

[daztrueblue91]

True plus any new incumbent will have to be someone who is prepared to work with / be managed by those above. It narrows our choices down significantly and prevents us from pursuing anyone like Klopp.

If we don't get Pep I haven't a clue who we turn to.

I like the look of the Watford manager or Pochettino.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

Yesterday he said we don't need to spend in January because uor squad is enough. Today he said we only have 14/15 players available for every game. That logic...

hes lost it

 

[i8rags]

If Stoke would of put away the very clear chances they created, it would of been 5-0, this thread would be on lockdown.

 

[Utter bobbins]

I like the look of the Watford manager or Pochettino.

Hugh Laurie

 

[Moveonlife]

hes lost it

Yeah mate I can't wait to have a top class manager coaching this squad

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

And sell half the squad in January? Haha

Seriously though, could do with fucking the season off and getting a caretaker manager, this will only get more frustrating I think. Hope I'm wrong obviously.

What do you mean half the squad? the players that were here under Mancini are either playing wank or are always injured.

I would take anybody as caretaker. Hiddink, Capello or the next non league manager that gets sacked. They couldn't possibly have less of an impact on the squad that MP

 

[Motty25]

Personally would only sack him now if Ancelotti is interested (or maybe Hiddink til the end of the season), apart from those two struggling to see a realistic manager who would not be too much of a gamble.

Problem we've got this year is the improvement of Spurs, Liverpool and Leicester, meaning the margin for error to stay in the top four is considerably less than it was last season.
Whilst I think keeping Pellegrini MAY stop us winning the league, sacking him could pose the greater threat to our place in the top four, which longer term would be a bigger blow than missing out on the title.

If he does stay, I think how successful we are will come down to how many injuries we get (and who to), and to the desire and character of the players.

Disagree with those saying he should have gone ages ago. Winning the double in his first season earned him the right to try and rebuild from the issues last season. Sadly it looks more and more apparent each week that we've failed to do that. Especially in defence - the extent to which we seemingly rely on one man (no matter how good he is) is ridiculous.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Sitting on his hands every game doesn't help the perception. If we don't score first away then we struggle. It was game over after the 2nd goal today. The rest of the game was totally predictible.

 

[Utter bobbins]

Yesterday he said we don't need to spend in January because uor squad is enough. Today he said we only have 14/15 players available for every game. That logic...

It's obvious what he meant

 

[Marvin]

Jason denayer, that's who mate, joke decision.

We lost Denayer because we went out and bought Otamendi. Who has turned out to be a great signing

The trouble is Mangala and Kompany got injured, and Demichelis who was intended as cover is ending up playing. I would not play him.

I fear Pellegrini is extremely stubborn and will just keep playing Demichelis and wont look at alternatives

The situation is not so bad to warrant change of manager. We will win the league if the injured players return, and have a great chance of going to Wembley again. Plus there's the Champions League. t the start of the season, pellegrini was in everyone's good books. What's gone wrong is that we have not responded to the injuries well. That is in part Pellegrini's fault because he's used players he should not have done, but in part it's just bad luck, or bad training, or having players on the books who are weak (if there is such a thing, I don't think there is)

 

[super_city_si]

My slant is we dont have a great squad and I stick by that.

We have a good squad in terms of the premier league. Trouble is we have absolutely no defensive organization. Look at the one today where stoke hi the post. Sagna was standing next to de bruyne about 10 yards over the half way line, demichelis was over where Sagan should be and hence our center backs were 35 yards apart with arnaultovic between them.
It was not even schoolboy defending. It is a complete lack of organization and coaching.

 

[the plasterer]

Get rid now, this clown is taking us backwards