OB1
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Our left backs are among the top ten most consistent players of recent years in the league; in fact they are virtually the only defenders in that ranking.
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Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16
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Our left backs are among the top ten most consistent players of recent years in the league; in fact they are virtually the only defenders in that ranking.
Paulmcfc2703
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'Well last week I used fake result so I need to think of another excuse as it's definitely not me that's the problem'.It's obvious what he meant
i8rags
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That's my point mate, denayer should never have gone, mdm should never of stayed.We lost Denayer because we went out and bought Otamendi. Who has turned out to be a great signing
The trouble is Mangala and Kompany got injured, and Demichelis who was intended as cover is ending up playing. I would not play him.
I fear Pellegrini is extremely stubborn and will just keep playing Demichelis and wont look at alternatives
The situation is not so bad to warrant change of manager. We will win the league if the injured players return, and have a great chance of going to Wembley again. Plus there's the Champions League. t the start of the season, pellegrini was in everyone's good books. What's gone wrong is that we have not responded to the injuries well. That is in part Pellegrini's fault because he's used players he should not have done, but in part it's just bad luck, or bad training, or having players on the books who are weak (if there is such a thing, I don't think there is)
Yesterday he said we don't need to spend in January because uor squad is enough. Today he said we only have 14/15 players available for every game. That logic...
He is talking like a dead man talking.
A lot more painful results like today if we stick with him for the remainder of the season.
But lets get some perspective , we have a small lightweight midfield not suited to any side that presses , applies pressure and has speed like Stoke did today , a defence that is slow and lacks leadership and an ability to organise ( Stoke should have scored 6 today ) and a injury suspect strike force with little depth.
Massive overhaul needed.
We could easily do so I knowLet's see what happens when we lose tuesday
We need to play through these difficult patches in the season. it's how you handle these moments that determines what you end up with at the end of the season. We need to limit the damage, and make sure that when the players return and the team picks up we are in touching distance and in as many competitions as possible
We're lucky Utd, Chelsea are even worse. Unlike them we at least know that our problems are temporary. Their problems are fundamental
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I cannot believe that this group of players would be this bad under a better manager. Not just that shit we saw today but the embarrassments against Spurs and Liverpool.
Owners just need to pull the trigger on Pellegrini and get Ancelotti in, even if it's just to the end of the season. Then if Pep doesn't come, keep Ancelotti. We're going to be in the shit if we're just waiting in hope and Pep doesn't come or changes his mind. Fucking hell I bet even Pardew would have us playing better than this.
Owners just need to pull the trigger on Pellegrini and get Ancelotti in, even if it's just to the end of the season. Then if Pep doesn't come, keep Ancelotti. We're going to be in the shit if we're just waiting in hope and Pep doesn't come or changes his mind. Fucking hell I bet even Pardew would have us playing better than this.
Len Rum
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Would it really be such a bad idea to appoint Kiddo till the end of the season?
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Our left backs are among the top ten most consistent players of recent years in the league; in fact they are virtually the only defenders in that ranking.
Interesting stats but for me, our full backs are a major weakness. On @Marvin point of Vinnys fitness being an embarrassment, i cant help but think the falling out over his Belgium appearance was far worse then we ever thought.
Utter bobbins
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I cannot believe that this group of players would be this bad under a better manager. Not just that shit we saw today but the embarrassments against Spurs and Liverpool.
Owners just need to pull the trigger on Pellegrini and get Ancelotti in, even if it's just to the end of the season. Then if Pep doesn't come, keep Ancelotti. We're going to be in the shit if we're just waiting in hope and Pep doesn't come or changes his mind. Fucking hell I bet even Pardew would have us playing better than this.
And if he doesn't want to come on a temp basis
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Would it really be such a bad idea to appoint Kiddo till the end of the season?
Pellegrini has a 67% win ratio.
The truth is only a handful of men are capable of replacing and there is no need for out right panic.
Our midfield should we play Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando could overpower any midfield. They are as strong and competitive as any midfield.He is talking like a dead man talking.
A lot more painful results like today if we stick with him for the remainder of the season.
But lets get some perspective , we have a small lightweight midfield not suited to any side that presses , applies pressure and has speed like Stoke did today , a defence that is slow and lacks leadership and an ability to organise ( Stoke should have scored 6 today ) and a injury suspect strike force with little depth.
Massive overhaul needed.
Before he came here had anyone honestly heard of him? I know who he managed after he came of course but prior no. Regardless of whether you liked Mancini or not did anyone think ''Wow!This is a great appointment for the club?'' We need a top class young innovative exciting manager,tactically adept and who can change things and motivate a squad of players who many experts say is the best in this league but often under achieve.The sooner this happens the better or i fear we will have another wasted year and some of us are getting too old to suffer many more!
OB1
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I am at the point where I think pretty much anything's worth a try. We're almost the polar opposite of Liverpool under Klopp. They're a team far greater than the sum of its parts, we're one that's far far less. Maybe a fit Kun and a fit Kompany will help turn things around, but at the moment we're a team that's managed just 14 points from the last 10 games, we were outplayed for significant parts in at least 2 of the games we won, and we haven't scored an away goal in over 400 minutes. I just can't see us finishing above Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and even the rags or Leicester at the moment I'm afraid, and sadly I can only see it getting worse.
Your misery always cheers me but one day you might be right; which is a worry.
The other guy I would look at right now on an interim basis, as a number 2, is Steve Clarke. Don't think he worked with Gus at Chelsea but he and Gus, with Kiddo, might work as a holding option.
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Hiddink had 74% in his interim post at Chelsea. Won the FA Cup tooPellegrini has a 67% win ratio.
The truth is only a handful of men are capable of replacing and there is no need for out right panic.
Yes.
Too many times we play without any hunger, any desire and any passion. Our tactics for a lot of games appear to be "we've got better players, so we'll win".
We've all seen at Liverpool an example of how much of a difference a top manager makes. A top manager with this squad and we could be a truly great team. Just look at our front four!
Pellegrini's lack of faith in youth is pretty embarrassing. Loaning Denayer out and keeping Demichelis was a shocking, shocking decision. Demichelis is finished and, with Kompany's well known injury record, Denayer would have got lots of games. Bony was poor once again today, yet Iheanacho doesn't get too much of an opportunity. Just look at the 0-0 Villa game, that was terrible management not to bring Iheanacho on when Bony got injured.
We can do better than Pellegrini. He's not a bad manager, but he's not a top manager. Never in a million years. We really missed out by not replacing Pellegrini with Klopp in the summer. Are we still waiting for Pep? I think Pochettino would be perfect for us.
Too many times we play without any hunger, any desire and any passion. Our tactics for a lot of games appear to be "we've got better players, so we'll win".
We've all seen at Liverpool an example of how much of a difference a top manager makes. A top manager with this squad and we could be a truly great team. Just look at our front four!
Pellegrini's lack of faith in youth is pretty embarrassing. Loaning Denayer out and keeping Demichelis was a shocking, shocking decision. Demichelis is finished and, with Kompany's well known injury record, Denayer would have got lots of games. Bony was poor once again today, yet Iheanacho doesn't get too much of an opportunity. Just look at the 0-0 Villa game, that was terrible management not to bring Iheanacho on when Bony got injured.
We can do better than Pellegrini. He's not a bad manager, but he's not a top manager. Never in a million years. We really missed out by not replacing Pellegrini with Klopp in the summer. Are we still waiting for Pep? I think Pochettino would be perfect for us.
was going to post along the same lines, when your captain and manager have a fallout its gotta impact on the whole clubInteresting stats but for me, our full backs are a major weakness. On @Marvin point of Vinnys fitness being an embarrassment, i cant help but think the falling out over his Belgium appearance was far worse then we ever thought.
The biggest problem is under Mancini we used to defend the 18yd box & it was virtually impossible to get behind us, especially away from home we'd play on the counter & score hatfulls of goals. Defending was worked on as much if not more than attacking, it was a joy to watch the best teams throw everything at us while bouncing off our well drilled defence . Now, we have slow c.halfs & defend up near the half way line, it's suicide & could be put right with a half tactically minded manager.
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Hiddink had 74% in his interim post at Chelsea. Won the FA Cup too
No doubt but we have an owner and senior management team that will have a view on this and possibly, plans fulfilled with pep coming in the summer.
Regardless, there is no need for panic.
Did you not see Fernando today? A strategically placed traffic cone would have been more effective.Our midfield should we play Delph, Fernandinho and Fernando could overpower any midfield. They are as strong and competitive as any midfield.
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