Champions league revamp? (Merged)

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Put this in here looks like Gill and his cronies wants a closed shop

In UEFA power vacuum, clubs discuss Champions League revamp


LONDON (AP) — European football's power vacuum is being seen as an opportunity by clubs to have a big say in overhauling its richest competition.

The Champions League could look very different by 2018 if some of the continent's biggest teams convince UEFA to offer them guaranteed spots in a more American-style competition.

The European Club Association thrashed out various visions for the Champions League of the future at meetings in Nyon earlier this week, before UEFA leaders met in the Swiss city without a president as the governing body stalls on replacing the banned Michel Platini.

What UEFA would certainly try to block is an attempted breakaway by elite clubs, forming their own continent-wide competition — the often-threatened Super League. UEFA has already attempted to placate the ECA by giving two seats on its executive committee to club representatives.

And UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said on Friday: "The Super League already exists. It's called the Champions League."

But the theoretical Super League discussed by the ECA executive board is a far more radical idea than UEFA's current top club competition.

The Champions League currently provides entry for the defending champions, the winner of the second-tier Europa League and on merit through domestic league positions.

The ECA is weighing up the merits of advocating turning the Champions League into a more closed competition, like the NBA or NFL, a person with knowledge of the meetings told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the meetings were private.

The talks are taking place now to ensure there is a united position to propose to UEFA later this year before it starts to sell Champions League television rights for the three seasons from 2018-19.

Disparities across European football are sharpening the need for change for some clubs.

The wealth of Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Barcelona and Real Madrid ensures they dominate their domestic leagues and a monumental collapse would have to occur to fail to qualify for the Champions League — such as the type of downfall experienced this season by Chelsea. The English champion is the victim of an increasingly competitive Premier League, whose next set of three-year television contracts are on course to generate around $13 billion.

Chelsea has gone from winning the league by eight points in May to currently languishing 14 points from the top four which guarantees Champions League places, having seen domestic rivals gain the financial power to resist attempts to sell their top talent.

Chelsea, the world's eighth wealthiest club by revenue, is likely to be absent from UEFA competitions next season.

Chelsea has only won the Champions League once, in 2012. But AC Milan, a seven-time European champion and 14th in the latest revenue ranking of global teams by accountancy firm Deloitte, is now in its second season out of Europe.

The person with knowledge of the ECA talks said the current qualification system sees too many clubs with vast fan bases, prestige and large stadiums not qualifying through their leagues. Teams like Barcelona and Bayern can target their resources on Europe at key times in the season, knowing there is little threat posed domestically, unlike more balanced leagues in England and Italy.

One option discussed is a Champions League that reserves places for a band of powerhouse clubs who are attractive to broadcasters, alongside an open qualification system for a changing roster of teams.

The ECA sees that as being an attractive option to UEFA when it goes to market with television rights for 2018-2021 and tries to maximize the value of deals. Clubs are currently sharing 1.257 billion euros ($1.4 billion) each season from Champions League television revenue.

"We are discussing everything with the clubs when it comes to club competitions," said Infantino, UEFA's top administrator who is seeking the FIFA presidency. "We are currently having discussions as we do every three years how we can adapt and improve the structures of our competitions."

International players' union, FIFPro, wants the stars of the competitions to influence any revamp.

"If clubs and governing bodies think they can act unilaterally, they have another thing coming," FIFPro spokesman Andrew Orsatti said. "Only through collective bargaining where clubs and players thrash out all the issues, including proposals for new competitions, will football be fair."

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we want our ball back your better than us and its not fair
shocking what tv football means to them forget the shit about the price of a match ticket bums on arm chairs in china usa india and the rest of the world they are the real fans united real barca wantnot match day local people they mean fucking nothing to them. its just about overseas TV rights to the premier league champions league that have built united and barca real to now have them called the real fans they pay to watch a game of football millions of miles away they mean more than little johnny and his dad in Manchester going to the game
 
The g14 roll back into town...

So much for the seasonal meritocracy cup, it's a jobs for the boys cup!

Nfl, nba etc have benefits in being a closed system... But they always have been. The crapest team (Tampa bay generally) gets 1st dibs on the next lot of players from college, in an attempt to level the playing field. Works generally (except for Tampa).

Football is (was?) far more on merit, with relegation/promotion. The chance for a small team to go far (Wimbledon).

It's only the once mighty , who believe they should forever sit at the top table, because of their 'istry.

Bollox to that. It's just nepotism and 'jobs for the boys'.
 

In UEFA power vacuum, clubs discuss Champions League revamp


LONDON (AP) — European football's power vacuum is being seen as an opportunity by clubs to have a big say in overhauling its richest competition.

The Champions League could look very different by 2018 if some of the continent's biggest teams convince UEFA to offer them guaranteed spots in a more American-style competition.

The European Club Association thrashed out various visions for the Champions League of the future at meetings in Nyon earlier this week, before UEFA leaders met in the Swiss city without a president as the governing body stalls on replacing the banned Michel Platini.

What UEFA would certainly try to block is an attempted breakaway by elite clubs, forming their own continent-wide competition — the often-threatened Super League. UEFA has already attempted to placate the ECA by giving two seats on its executive committee to club representatives.

And UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino said on Friday: "The Super League already exists. It's called the Champions League."

But the theoretical Super League discussed by the ECA executive board is a far more radical idea than UEFA's current top club competition.

The Champions League currently provides entry for the defending champions, the winner of the second-tier Europa League and on merit through domestic league positions.

The ECA is weighing up the merits of advocating turning the Champions League into a more closed competition, like the NBA or NFL, a person with knowledge of the meetings told The Associated Press. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the meetings were private.

The talks are taking place now to ensure there is a united position to propose to UEFA later this year before it starts to sell Champions League television rights for the three seasons from 2018-19.

Disparities across European football are sharpening the need for change for some clubs.

The wealth of Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Barcelona and Real Madrid ensures they dominate their domestic leagues and a monumental collapse would have to occur to fail to qualify for the Champions League — such as the type of downfall experienced this season by Chelsea. The English champion is the victim of an increasingly competitive Premier League, whose next set of three-year television contracts are on course to generate around $13 billion.

Chelsea has gone from winning the league by eight points in May to currently languishing 14 points from the top four which guarantees Champions League places, having seen domestic rivals gain the financial power to resist attempts to sell their top talent.

Chelsea, the world's eighth wealthiest club by revenue, is likely to be absent from UEFA competitions next season.

Chelsea has only won the Champions League once, in 2012. But AC Milan, a seven-time European champion and 14th in the latest revenue ranking of global teams by accountancy firm Deloitte, is now in its second season out of Europe.

The person with knowledge of the ECA talks said the current qualification system sees too many clubs with vast fan bases, prestige and large stadiums not qualifying through their leagues. Teams like Barcelona and Bayern can target their resources on Europe at key times in the season, knowing there is little threat posed domestically, unlike more balanced leagues in England and Italy.

One option discussed is a Champions League that reserves places for a band of powerhouse clubs who are attractive to broadcasters, alongside an open qualification system for a changing roster of teams.

The ECA sees that as being an attractive option to UEFA when it goes to market with television rights for 2018-2021 and tries to maximize the value of deals. Clubs are currently sharing 1.257 billion euros ($1.4 billion) each season from Champions League television revenue.

"We are discussing everything with the clubs when it comes to club competitions," said Infantino, UEFA's top administrator who is seeking the FIFA presidency. "We are currently having discussions as we do every three years how we can adapt and improve the structures of our competitions."

International players' union, FIFPro, wants the stars of the competitions to influence any revamp.

"If clubs and governing bodies think they can act unilaterally, they have another thing coming," FIFPro spokesman Andrew Orsatti said. "Only through collective bargaining where clubs and players thrash out all the issues, including proposals for new competitions, will football be fair."

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I've just re-realised who the owners of Tampa are.

Perhaps they are applying the skills they have learnt there for turning a divi profit at the least successful nfl club, with United... One can only hope!
 
History tells you when the major clubs want change it may just happen match day revenue a break away league champions league and FFP
 
But AC Milan, a seven-time European champion and 14th in the latest revenue ranking of global teams by accountancy firm Deloitte, is now in its second season out of Europe.

Why does everything always have to be about what suits AC Milan?

United not qualifying for the CL again would see them at the forefront.
 
The CL is a UEFA competition so it would have to be them but the old G-14 have a track record of getting what they want.

Yep and with Liverpool rags and Milan not getting regular champs league plus the other clubs in g14 if there was a vote it would happen
 
fuck 'em!
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If this happens I would never attend or watch another Champions League game. A closed competition would be horrific.
 
Thing is, upon reflection I'm not sure what the criteria could be in practical terms.

Previous European Cup wins? Does that mean Forest and Villa will get a place?

Club turnover? With the new PL TV deal, Bournemouth will have a bigger turnover than Ajax.

Crowd size? Newcastle and Sunderland get bigger crowds than AC Milan.

Any other criteria would be too subjective and completely open to legal challenge. Can't see it functioning tbh.
 

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