Gay plays at primary school

urmston said:
People are free to discuss schools of Facebook if they want and Facebook allow it on their private site. How can anyone have a problem with free speech?

It is not compulsory to be in favour or to approve of equality for gay people, gay marriage or anything to do with homosexuality.

Homosexuality was legalised by act of parliament after free discussion of both sides of the argument. Gay marriage was legalised in the same way. People who advocated legalising homosexuality or gay marriage were not visited by the police while those things were illegal.

It is anti-democratic and authoritarian to now declare that all discussion must end and expressing opposition to the rights provided by these acts of parliament mean you can get a visit from the police.

Police involvement with people who express dissent to the prevailing majority or officially approved views, or current laws, is the mark of an authoritarian regime, not a democracy.
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Did you support the section 28 legislation?
 
KingCarlito said:
Stupid idea, especially if parents weren't informed beforehand.

If I had kids I'd like them to discover these things on their own or from their parents, and form their own opinion and views. Not have it forced on them by some dippy primary school teachers. Just creates a bigger diversion over the subject than there needs to be.
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If we're going to talk about "dippy" teachers "forcing" views onto kids, we also need to talk about ignorant parents forcing homophobic views onto their kids? Maybe those kids deserve to have an alternative perspective presented to them in school? If you want kids to form their own opinions and views then they need to have all views presented to them. Perhaps then a child with homophobic parents might stand a better chance of not growing up into a horrible ****.
 
EalingBlue2 said:
Why not? Because I would have about 20 permission slips every time they read or did anything .
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Parents having an involvement in their kids education is either important or it's not. The best way for kids to learn is a combination of learning at school and in the home. If it takes a permission slip, or a note explaining what is being planned, and maybe how parents could support that learning I wouldn't have thought that was too much of a problem.

Like I said they do it with maths, phonics, languages etc. Why not social issues?
 
Gaudion M said:
What makes you think Catholics are allowed to be homophobic?
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Who said I thought that?? My question was more aimed towards the fact that the Catholic Church is/has been opposed to such lifestyles, yet it is somehow OK to be have a play of this ilk in a catholic primary school. It's a bit like a vegetarian advertising Angus steaks
 
gaz76 said:
Who said I thought that?? My question was more aimed towards the fact that the Catholic Church is/has been opposed to such lifestyles, yet it is somehow OK to be have a play of this ilk in a catholic primary school. It's a bit like a vegetarian advertising Angus steaks
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And my point is that Catholics might assume that as they oppose such lifestyles they get an acception to teaching modern values in school as dictated by the National Curriculum. They don’t, you can have your backward views in church but if you’re taking state funds to educate kids them I’m afraid the teaching should reflect the more liberal world we live in.
 
Wrong. What can you teach children about homosexuality without influencing them, which I would assume and hope was not the object of the exercise?

A time and a place, but not at such a young age they are too vulnerable And open to suggestion at that age and there is nothing for them to learn.
 
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BigJoe#1 said:
Wrong. What can you teach children about homosexuality without influencing them, which I would assume and hope was not the object of the exercise?

A time and a place, but not at such a young age they are too vulnerable And open to suggestion at that age and there is nothing for them to learn.
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You can teach them it's normal and not something to be ashamed of. Then hopefully they can grow up without the ridiculous prejudices that my generation are still struggling to overcome.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Wrong. What can you teach children about homosexuality without influencing them, which I would assume and hope was not the object of the exercise?

A time and a place, but not at such a young age they are too vulnerable And open to suggestion at that age and there is nothing for them to learn.
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That is the sort of mentality I would expect in the 80s! Do you turn gay from listening to too much Elton John as well?
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Wrong. What can you teach children about homosexuality without influencing them, which I would assume and hope was not the object of the exercise?

A time and a place, but not at such a young age they are too vulnerable And open to suggestion at that age and there is nothing for them to learn.
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It was just a play where 2 princes fall in love. Nobody would be getting their knickers in a twist if they'd watched a play about a prince and princess getting it together. Nobody would be saying "oh my god they're forcing our kids to be STRAIGHT!" What are they supposed to be vulnerable to? The idea that some couples are gay and some couples are straight? What are you so worried about them being influenced to do? Be gay? That's clearly not the point of the exercise. Plenty of people manage to be gay inspite of the fact the vast majority of film, tv and advertising they're exposed to promotes the hetero-normative, so i'm pretty sure a play that merely shows up that gay people actually exist isn't going to influence a kid into being gay.

Nobody's even mentioned the fact that there will be kids in that class who will realise they're gay when they're a bit older. Maybe it'll be helpful to them to know that the rest of the world might accept them for who they are. Teenagers are still killing themselves over this kind of thing and if something as tame as this helps prevent that then I honestly don't see what the problem is.
 
Do we really need to make little toddlers aware of bowling from the pavilion end. Tolerance is all well and good but if I had a son I'd be upset if he was a homo as I suspect would many of those defending the promotion of it. I don't think that makes me a bigot - more a nimby.

P.S this must be the most pansified, leftie football forum in existence. No wonder City never had a big hooligan following with this bunch of bien pensant do gooders mincing around
 
Hesh said:
Do we really need to make little toddlers aware of bowling from the pavilion end. Tolerance is all well and good but if I had a son I'd be upset if he was a homo as I suspect would many of those defending the promotion of it. I don't think that makes me a bigot - more a nimby.

P.S this must be the most pansified, leftie football forum in existence. No wonder City never had a big hooligan following with this bunch of bien pensant do gooders mincing around
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Love it when the ones promoting tolerance are the ones who get labelled pansies rather than the ones freaking the fuck out over the possibility a primary school child might know gay people exist.
 
Hesh said:
Do we really need to make little toddlers aware of bowling from the pavilion end. Tolerance is all well and good but if I had a son I'd be upset if he was a homo as I suspect would many of those defending the promotion of it. I don't think that makes me a bigot - more a nimby.

P.S this must be the most pansified, leftie football forum in existence. No wonder City never had a big hooligan following with this bunch of bien pensant do gooders mincing around
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I know if my son was gay, I wouldn't give a flying fuck. His happiness is what matters to me.
 
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