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It's really not, and is far closer to the leaks of an overall £150m spend.

Alaba, admittedly, is an absolute 'hail Mary' on my part- £50m won't be enough for an entrenched Bayern position, having already seen us pay £54m to make De Bruyne the Bundesliga's most-expensive signing ever.

It's a decent suck it and see, though!

I would rather go higher for him and take money away from the Stones transfer. They would take £60m and he makes as much financial sense as Pogba, in terms of spending for the next five years.

It also puts us on a par with Barcelona in my opinion, in terms of realistic Champions League contenders.
How would you rate our chances of Alaba out of 10. Surprised after your previous posts you've put Stones > Laporte.
 
.............. ...HART..................

DENAYER....KOMPANY...STONES (£45m)....ALABA (£50m)

...............GUNDOGAN (£23m)................

...........POGBA (£80m).......ISCO (£40m)........

DE BRUYNE.....AGUERO.......STERLING...............


Tell me that doesn't set us up for years, and with four domestic/homegrown starters.

By my maths, that 'tweak' comes at a cost circa £235m BEFORE sales and the guaranteed combined money from Dzeko and Jovetic (£27m)

Even if we sell Bony (£15m), Mangala (£15m), Kolarov (£5m), Yaya (£10m), Zabba (£5m), Fernando £6m) Willy (£3m) and Navas (£5m), (at bargain bucket quick deals) - that should be another £65m?

That gives us a net of £143m!

Get the starting eleven right from the off, if we want to push through other deals, make the big decisions on Silva, Nasri and Fernandinho.

In that scenario I'd be happy with Dinho in place of Isco but as you've pointed out in your maths, it's achievable. Also think we will need another inside forward for squad cover, someone like Sane.
 
Zieler 10 million
Laporte 40
Stones 25 and mangala
Alaba 40
Piccini 10
Pogba 70
Gundogan 22
Ox 18
Dembele 20

Total:255 million

Out
Willy 3
Zaba 10
Kolarov 7
Demichelis free
Otamendi 20
Mangala see above
Fernando 7
Yaya 13
Navas 10
Bony 20
Clichy 5
Total: 95 million

Promoted
Denayer
Angelino

Net spend 170 million

Willy for £3m? good luck with that!
 
How would you rate our chances of Alaba out of 10. Surprised after your previous posts you've put Stones > Laporte.


I've been watching Stones for a while and I've seen enough to say he would certainly hit the ground quicker than Laporte in the Premier League. We can't sign everybody, top players will always sign for somebody else.

I just think it is well worth the risk on a player who could captain England for a decade if we and Pep can get it right.

As for Alaba, can't put a number on somebody who is not for sale, have made any known advances for.

He is somebody you come correct for. You come to the market as aggressively as you can, wait for the inevitable bid rejection and then you wait for the fall-out.
 
It's really not, and is far closer to the leaks of an overall £150m spend.

Alaba, admittedly, is an absolute 'hail Mary' on my part- £50m won't be enough for an entrenched Bayern position, having already seen us pay £54m to make De Bruyne the Bundesliga's most-expensive signing ever.

It's a decent suck it and see, though!

I would rather go higher for him and take money away from the Stones transfer. They would take £60m and he makes as much financial sense as Pogba, in terms of spending for the next five years.

It also puts us on a par with Barcelona in my opinion, in terms of realistic Champions League contenders.
Any other signings? Goalie, winger etc?
 
Pogba, Gundogan, Stones, Alaba, Chamberlain.

As a package of signings, that instantly takes us up a notch, regardless of obnoxious fan prejudices against Stones & Chamberlain.

Ace in the pack? Pep would be managing them, along with what we already have.

There are no complaints to be had.
 
Considering the current level of under achievement it is going to be a very interesting summer, it could be the first major overhaul since 2011/12. Since then there have been some decent spends but the core of the team has remained Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero with the supporting cast varying.

We could see 8 first team players (Willy, Zaba, Kolarov, Mangala, Fernando, Yaya, Navas and Bony) moved in a single window with 7 in and Denayer returning.

We seem to be looking at Pogba, Gundogan, Stones and Chamberlain. That leaves a left back, a right back and a keeper though we would very light in centre forward.
 
Considering the current level of under achievement it is going to be a very interesting summer, it could be the first major overhaul since 2011/12. Since then there have been some decent spends but the core of the team has remained Hart, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero with the supporting cast varying.

We could see 8 first team players (Willy, Zaba, Kolarov, Mangala, Fernando, Yaya, Navas and Bony) moved in a single window with 7 in and Denayer returning.

We seem to be looking at Pogba, Gundogan, Stones and Chamberlain. That leaves a left back, a right back and a keeper though we would very light in centre forward.

I just don't think that level of player turnover is realistic in a single window, certainly not one affected by the Euros. At least one or two of the incoming big names will be a protracted deal, like KDB, dragging on until after the start of the season. Others will be playing in the Euros and will have hardly any opportunity to take part in a meaningful pre season. There's a huge risk that we start the season short of numbers and fielding a bunch of strangers.

We cant afford a bad start to the season because we've ditched too many players. Even more so if we have to play a CL qualifier.
 
I just don't think that level of player turnover is realistic in a single window, certainly not one affected by the Euros. At least one or two of the incoming big names will be a protracted deal, like KDB, dragging on until after the start of the season. Others will be playing in the Euros and will have hardly any opportunity to take part in a meaningful pre season. There's a huge risk that we start the season short of numbers and fielding a bunch of strangers.

We cant afford a bad start to the season because we've ditched too many players. Even more so if we have to play a CL qualifier.

Depending how our players are priced and how much they want to play, I think some players will be happier to leave this season.

Yaya's agent has already started moaning about Pep, Mangala was almost out the door last summer, Willy will leave as Manuel is leaving, Navas will probably be happy to go home. Bony won't be that hard to sell considering his pre-City record.That leaves Fernando and Kolarov as the hard sells. Don't forget Kolarov was looked out the door in March last season but his form improved hugely up to the end of season. It's hard to see that happening again.
 
According to City Watch, Pep wants a GK, 2 CBs, 2 Fullbacks, a winger, 2 midfielders and a forward.

Based on who we are regularly linked with:

Handanovic, Stones, Laporte, Alaba, Rodriguez, Sane, Gundogan, Pogba and Higuain.

Now that would be quite the overhaul not to mention it would cost a few bob.
We've not been linked with either. City fans want them, but there are no links. Beside they are both leftbacks. I think by 2 fullbacks he means one on either side.
 
.............. ...HART..................

DENAYER....KOMPANY...STONES (£45m)....ALABA (£50m)

...............GUNDOGAN (£23m)................

...........POGBA (£80m).......ISCO (£40m)........

DE BRUYNE.....AGUERO.......STERLING...............


Tell me that doesn't set us up for years, and with four domestic/homegrown starters.

By my maths, that 'tweak' comes at a cost circa £235m BEFORE sales and the guaranteed combined money from Dzeko and Jovetic (£27m)

Even if we sell Bony (£15m), Mangala (£15m), Kolarov (£5m), Yaya (£10m), Zabba (£5m), Fernando £6m) Willy (£3m) and Navas (£5m), (at bargain bucket quick deals) - that should be another £65m?

That gives us a net of £143m!

Get the starting eleven right from the off, if we want to push through other deals, make the big decisions on Silva, Nasri and Fernandinho.
Except for switching Laporte for Stones, getting him 10 million cheaper and starying Delph atvleft back and keeping the money on Alaba. The above is my dream team.

Hart
Delph
Denayer
Laporte(30)
Kompany
Gundogan(25)
Pogba(75)
Isco(40)
DeBryune
Sterling
Aguero.

Bench
GK
Clichy
Sagna
Otamendi
Dihno
Silva
Dembele(25)
Kelechi
 
Grace us with your knowledge oh wise one

Whilst it's pretty obvious sk3ptical doesn't actually have anything concrete to back up his assertions I do tend to agree with his general sentiments. Bayern, having lost their manager to City, will be loathed to sell us a player as well, and certainly one such as Alaba. As far as I'm aware his contract situation isn't going to help us either as he's got a fair while left on it. Bayern are in a strong position here and I don't see them backing down and allowing Guardiola to leave and take one of their best young players with him.
 
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