Joe Hart and Fernando blunder analysis,

Some of it was on Hart... but Fernando was open when Hart gave him the ball. So I'd give Fernando 80% of the blame given that Fernando should have expected the ball to come to him and therefore should have been aware of who was around him.

But hey!... shit happens.

Overall, not too upset by the play.
 
BobKowalski said:
Midfield player on edge of box receives pass which he cocks up. Goal. Now the reason why a midfield player is on the edge of the box is to receive the ball to initiate movement up the pitch otherwise why is he there? Given that he is there to receive the ball he should be ready for the ball. He wasn't or took his eye off it or whatever. The mistake lies with Fernando.
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I'm glad someone else understands football.
 
Pablo1 said:
Or others just see more than the actual pass and question the validity of Hart playing it in the first place.
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It was explained by Bob, to start the next attack up. Now if he'd of passed it to Fernando while ibra was two yards away I'd of questioned Hart. You'll be seeing a lot more of this next season.
 
The blue phantom said:
It was explained by Bob, to start the next attack up. Now if he'd of passed it to Fernando while ibra was two yards away I'd of questioned Hart. You'll be seeing a lot more of this next season.
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I read his explanation, it doesn't explain why he thought to play that pass at that time in those circumstances.
I know what to expect next season. I imagine we'll be a tad more drilled in the thought process though.
Trying to absolve Hart from any blame whatsoever is bizarre.
 
I don't blame Hart at all,it wasn't a bad pass as Fernando had time,space and options - unfortunately he miscontrolled,dithered and panicked.
 
FantasyIreland said:
I don't blame Hart at all,it wasn't a bad pass as Fernando had time,space and options - unfortunately he miscontrolled,dithered and panicked.
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How anyone can see it any differently is just plain bizarre in my book.

Maybe there's an argument to say hit it long but there's just as strong an argument to say keep it short.

It's interesting that outside of City fans there's very few apportioning any blame to Hart.
 
Rolee said:
How anyone can see it any differently is just plain bizarre in my book.

Maybe there's an argument to say hit it long but there's just as strong an argument to say keep it short.

It's interesting that outside of City fans there's very few apportioning any blame to Hart.
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No, bizarre is absolving Hart of any blame. We've done this to death but as you seem to think your view is the only possible way to look at I suppose I'll have to keep putting the very valid opposite opinion across...and on we go.

The fact you've admitted that there is an argument for playing it long is what I've been saying from the off. I've seen a fair few outside of this place question it. You must be looking in the wrong places.
Those throwing in the "you don't know football if you think Hart was to blame" are laughable.
 
Pablo1 said:
No, bizarre is absolving Hart of any blame. We've done this to death but as you seem to think your view is the only possible way to look at I suppose I'll have to keep putting the very valid opposite opinion across...and on we go.

The fact you've admitted that there is an argument for playing it long is what I've been saying from the off. I've seen a fair few outside of this place question it. You must be looking in the wrong places.
Those throwing in the "you don't know football if you think Hart was to blame" are laughable.
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And followed up with there's just as strong an argument to play it short which makes any argument pretty redundant.

I don't think my view is the only way to look at it, I could just as easily throw the same accusation at you considering.

Why you added that last bit I've no idea because I never suggested anything of the sort.
 
Rolee said:
And followed up with there's just as strong an argument to play it short which makes any argument pretty redundant.

I don't think my view is the only way to look at it, I could just as easily throw the same accusation at you considering.

Why you added that last bit I've no idea because I never suggested anything of the sort.
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Yeah the last bit want aimed at you, I should have made it clear.
The point is there is an argument either way so it's not as cut and dried as being made out - by either side. Which makes claims of it being bizarre, err, bizarre. Anyway, I think I've made my case as have you so time to move on.
 
Regardless of who is to blame...

I loved City's response. Fernando was clearly crestfallen by the mistake. Did our team jump all over him? No, he was consoled by Hart and members of the defense.

100% the right approach.

It got Fernando back into the game, playing well and putting the mistake behind him.

Classy City.
 
Bit of topic, but yesterday another blunder happened by the goalkeeper. This one unfortunately doesn't have a teammate to share the blame with.

 
Terra Passenger said:
Regardless of who is to blame...

I loved City's response. Fernando was clearly crestfallen by the mistake. Did our team jump all over him? No, he was consoled by Hart and members of the defense.

100% the right approach.

It got Fernando back into the game, playing well and putting the mistake behind him.

Classy City.
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Did they console Hart?
 
Rolee said:
Did they console Hart?
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They didn't, but then it would have looked daft for everyone to jog back into the 6 yard box to console him. Fernando was was in amongst the rest of the team so it was easier to give him words of encouragement.
 
This thread will continue to go round in circles due to its hypothetical nature........had Hart kicked long,Fernando wouldn't have fucked up,the ball wouldn't have gone in the net and this thread wouldn't exist.....subsequently such a scenario adds weight to the ''Hart could have done things differently'' argument........however,as he chose to execute the very reasonable option of the short pass to one of his midfielders,who wasnt under any pressure at the time,and who was even offered further instruction on the next phase of play......then the blame surely has to lie with that player,IMO of course ;-)
 
If Fernando wasn't expecting the pass, or that it wasnt a play that had been drilled or thought about, then he wouldn't have been sat (as a midfielder) on our 18 yard line. His lapse in concentration and panick turned a routine pass into a calamity, it would never have been discussed had he played a pass calmly out to either side or controlled the ball correctly. Therefore I feel he is at fault.
 
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