You think Fernando wasn't expecting it?
Entirely Joe Hart's fault, he's passing it out to Fernando who he knows isn't technically brilliant. Fernando isn't looking at Joe when he makes the pass, so he's not even expecting it. It's a cockup from Hart being far too overconfident at a time of the game where we just needed to slow things down.
He was attempting to slow it down. Also, a pass is on to a professional footballer who is paid fucking big bucks to play in the midfield of a side challenging for domestic and European honours, you're really telling me our team mates should be thinking "better not pass to Fernando because he's a bag of wank with the ball and for some reason can't do the basics that a 5 year old can with a football, despite playing and being paid handsomely to be able to do so"? No.
Sorry, it should have been in inverted commas, but it was deriving from the ridiculous notion that Joe should be discriminating against the basics of Fernando's football ability in a team game, where he has shown he can do the basics time and time again.No idea why you've put that in quotations marks as I havent said that. But yes, it's Joe Hart's fault.
Sorry, it should have been in inverted commas, but it was deriving from the ridiculous notion that Joe should be discriminating against the basics of Fernando's football ability in a team game, where he has shown he can do the basics time and time again.
He could have turned and belted/passed it anywhere his heart desired, played it to whoever was stood at right back, even given it back to joe. Ibrahimovic was on his arse after he recovered to the ball after his Bony-esque touch and then he still chose the wrong option in lashing it towards our left hand side when he could have recovered the situation again. For all the 'pressure' Ibra put on him, the only reason he got to the ball was because Fernando went into panic mode and kicked the ball against him. Joe could probably have been back in his goal mouth.What would have happened if Fernando had controlled the ball perfectly & not made a mistake ?
He could have turned and belted/passed it anywhere his heart desired, played it to whoever was stood at right back, even given it back to joe. Ibrahimovic was on his arse after he recovered to the ball after his Bony-esque touch and then he still chose the wrong option in lashing it towards our left hand side when he could have recovered the situation again. For all the 'pressure' Ibra put on him, the only reason he got to the ball was because Fernando went into panic mode and kicked the ball against him. Joe could probably have been back in his goal mouth.
Totally agree, really bizarre to blame Hart for this.Very interesting read this thread. Show's how everyone interprets things so differently.
I think Joe is completely blameless, while others see it totally opposite...
Given the pace of top level football, i actually think Fernando had quite a decent amount of time to deal with it, he just had a lapse in concentration, followed by a bad decision.
We played our way out of danger in much tighter situations during that game.
Unfortunate, but we got on with it.
Entirely Joe Hart's fault, he's passing it out to Fernando who he knows isn't technically brilliant. Fernando isn't looking at Joe when he makes the pass, so he's not even expecting it. It's a cockup from Hart being far too overconfident at a time of the game where we just needed to slow things down.
Joe is mainly to blame for the goal.
Joe should not have considered passing to Fernando because Ibrahimovic was close enough to him to put him under immediate pressure if he did receive the ball. All Joe needed to do was slow the game down by kicking it long or passing to his right to a more free defender (can't remember if it was Otamendi or Sagna), even though that right sided defender was also going to be closed down at some point as well, however, he would have much more time and space to do what they wanted with the ball before being closed down. Whereas Fernando was on the edge of his own box and being closed down by one of the best strikers in the world!
Sorry this is entirely Joe's bad decision making, when under no pressure at all.
Joe is mainly to blame for the goal.
Joe should not have considered passing to Fernando because Ibrahimovic was close enough to him to put him under immediate pressure if he did receive the ball. All Joe needed to do was slow the game down by kicking it long or passing to his right to a more free defender (can't remember if it was Otamendi or Sagna), even though that right sided defender was also going to be closed down at some point as well, however, he would have much more time and space to do what they wanted with the ball before being closed down. Whereas Fernando was on the edge of his own box and being closed down by one of the best strikers in the world!
Sorry this is entirely Joe's bad decision making, when under no pressure at all.
The crowd would have fainted.What would have happened if Fernando had controlled the ball perfectly & not made a mistake ?
He 'could" do a lot but in reality, those options are too risky from that position, so the ball is going back to Joe, who now has to deal with a moving ball when he lumps it down the pitch to the lino.
Just lump it first time instead of potentially involving a 3rd party.