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bobom

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I know some people are going to hate this, but here goes. We're an amazing club. We've had ups and downs - lots of both. Our downs make us unique among top clubs in modern football, and they make the ups all the better. Gillingham to a CL quarter final (and possibly beyond). What a story.

Then why do we fans still resort to the narrative of being the underdogs that are being treated unfairly? Recurring themes on this board include the media agenda against City, the UEFA agenda against the club, or refereeing bias against the club. I know people have strong feelings about these issues, but from the outside it must just look like sour grapes. This really rankles with me, because we're doing ourselves an injustice here, we don't need to define ourselves through anyone else: we're an amazing club in our own right, with a rich history, a great fans base, wonderful players, great owners, in a wonderful city, and have a future full of promise.

We make our own story, and it's a better one than "it's not fair".
 
Who cares what it looks like from the outside?

If someone writes a shit article about us we should be free to discuss it.

If UEFA try to shaft us we should feel free to discuss it.

If a referee makes a shit decision against us we should feel free to discuss it.

Every time we do someone throws their toys out of the pram. Don't know why people get so upset over that.
 
Like you say "we make our own story", not giving a flying fuck what anything looks like from the outside.

We don't define ourselves through the eyes of those looking in from the outside.

Actually reading through again, you've contradicted yourself.
 
Rolee said:
Like you say "we make our own story", not giving a flying fuck what anything looks like from the outside.
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Perhaps I should add, I'm not suggesting this because I care what other people think of us. I care about who we are. And life is better when you're don't think you're a victim.
 
The only thing that bothers me is G14/UEFA being allowed to blatantly target us.

It's all falling to shit anyway and I think its no coincidence that they mess with a man from one of the richest and most respected families in the world and the FBI end up running through FIFA/UEFA like super strength laxative.

The media bias and the referee claims are mostly bollocks imo. However I have seen some truly negative press about us which borders on the laughable, but it warms me inside to see that this is the only way the old order can attempt to get to us. It doesn't concern me though because as the new generation of media people come through to eventually replace the ageing dinosaurs who made their collective names licking the arses of the 'traditional top 4', the wider perception of City will change too.

As it stands, any football fan who reads/listens to and believes any of the trash written about us is probably a bitter rival dick anyway, so why any of us should be arsed what they think has always puzzled me.
 
I suspect the OP is not Mancunian or even from the North West.
You may ask why this would matter? Well it's do with the Zeitgeist of living in a magnificent city overlooked for centuries by the southern toffs who have tried to tell us what to do. We have a burning desire to overcome odds and it looks a much better victory if the foes are cunts and we have had to fight the impossible fight.
You make the fight and your enemies look worse than they actually are so the victories are so much sweeter. We are salt of the earth people who are not into preening and saying we are the best and look down at the rest (although beginning to see more of that recently, shame), we usually reserve that to the southerners and the French.
 
City are my club, I've followed then since I was 7 and I'm 39 now. You tend to grow attached to something you've loved for so long and when you feel that something you love is being unfairly treated you stand up for it.
We get the shitty end of the stick in the media. Its not even up for debate.
 
squirtyflower said:
I suspect the OP is not Mancunian or even from the North West.
You may ask why this would matter? Well it's do with the Zeitgeist of living in a magnificent city overlooked for centuries by the southern toffs who have tried to tell us what to do. We have a burning desire to overcome odds and it looks a much better victory if the foes are cunts and we have had to fight the impossible fight.
You make the fight and your enemies look worse than they actually are so the victories are so much sweeter. We are salt of the earth people who are not into preening and saying we are the best and look down at the rest (although beginning to see more of that recently, shame), we usually reserve that to the southerners and the French.
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That's pretty bloody observant of you. However:

Southerners follow football when the rugby's not on and I will not have a bad word said about the French whilst an Eva Green on Marion Cotillard sex scene is still a possibility.
 
squirtyflower said:
I suspect the OP is not Mancunian or even from the North West.
You may ask why this would matter? Well it's do with the Zeitgeist of living in a magnificent city overlooked for centuries by the southern toffs who have tried to tell us what to do. We have a burning desire to overcome odds and it looks a much better victory if the foes are cunts and we have had to fight the impossible fight.
You make the fight and your enemies look worse than they actually are so the victories are so much sweeter. We are salt of the earth people who are not into preening and saying we are the best and look down at the rest (although beginning to see more of that recently, shame), we usually reserve that to the southerners and the French.
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I like to think my condescension runs far deeper than that.
 
bobom said:
Perhaps I should add, I'm not suggesting this because I care what other people think of us. I care about who we are. And life is better when you're don't think you're a victim.
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Hmmmm, thinking you're a victim invokes a siege mentality though, and that can be a very potent weapon to have in your armoury.
 
We still have an inferiority complex. Despite the CFA, the squad, the trophies and titles of the last few seasons, we are still inferior. So says Ducker the Fucker in the DT. I must tell him that even in the days of Rag trebles I never felt inferior to any football club, no matter what the score or outcome! On the other hand, I cannot believe that the whole gist of this tale today from Silly Ducker isn't that he feels superior, entitled, and self-serving. Well let him. Let the last few and the next few seasons tell their own tale!
 
Tugay One Cup said:
That's pretty bloody observant of you. However:

Southerners follow football when the rugby's not on and I will not have a bad word said about the French whilst an Eva Green on Marion Cotillard sex scene is still a possibility.
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I don't know Eva Green and I've lost hope for Marion, therefore I shall call the French as I see fit.
 
I don't city fans in general have a "we are picked on" or a victim mentality, but we are generally treated with a kind of snobbery from what is in their own mind the football elite and our media(not foreign media though).

I dont belive in a football elite, there are just teams and any wining stuff and doing well at a certain point will get the limelight and positìvity from our press, but some old journos and ex players still romantacising about the scouser 80's and the rags dominance the last 20 years seem to see us, spurs, and I will even say leicester this year as abnomal events that will dissapear soon and so don't invest in our stories with anything but brief interest temporaraly but no real zeal to bother caring. This comes across as negativity after a couple of years on the trot where I see it as indiference from them just waiting for their precious reds to return to the top.
 
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