Still angry

mosssideblue said:
City has cost me in xs of 2K this season but I don't rock up thinking we have a divine right to beat anyone who dares to tread on our turf. Nor do I think football is as black and white as you and many others seam to think it is. Sure, we could have done much better, but I appreciate when humans are up against humans, any outcome is possible (result and performance).

Putting blame and anger purely down to the manager, is simply naive IMO.

Will I be stumping up £2k again next season, you can bet your arse I will
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Incredibly simplistic view yet accusing others of thinking in 'black & white'.

Throwing the worn old 'divine right' bollocks at fans who have been going for nearly 50 years, simply because they don't share your view. It's not possible to reach this opinion by reasoned thought so we must think we have a devine right to beat 'anyone'.

If that is the limit of your understanding of all the many detailed points made by people on this forum, who don't share yiur view, it's not surprising you can't figure out why they feel as they do.

Read the thread on Oliver Holt's piece.

Go ask a football supporter who isn't a City fan whether they think Pellegrini has the squad operating to the level it should. Ask them if they would be motivated to run through a brick wall for him.

Go ask a few youth coaches whether they think he has helped the club in that area.
 
mosssideblue said:
City has cost me in xs of 2K this season but I don't rock up thinking we have a divine right to beat anyone who dares to tread on our turf. Nor do I think football is as black and white as you and many others seam to think it is. Sure, we could have done much better, but I appreciate when humans are up against humans, any outcome is possible (result and performance).

Putting blame and anger purely down to the manager, is simply naive IMO.

Will I be stumping up £2k again next season, you can bet your arse I will
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I'd say it's naïve to think the manager won't get the blame. That's his job.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
The tactics were to try and sneak the win. Our biggest names didn't deliver. Pep is a bigger drawer and hopefully we will recruit players who at ease at the highest level!

The game totally fizzled out when their keeper made out he had been shot and stayed down for a few minutes. We had a rare bit of pressure before then (and we didn't know at the time about the Ramos hand ball).

As the saying goes, experience is the thing you get the moment after you need it!
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We shouldn't need 'experience' in the last ten of a cup game where we need 1 goal though. Nor 'big players'.

We need passion, alehouse football, anything. We don't need Aguero we need any fucker to stuck a foot out & deflect a ball in, it doesn't matter who. Fight, lump, jump leather, whatever.

There is an undercurrent of 'we're a bit short in centre mid, & Aguero's struggling, so we can't win the title'.

If Leicester had thought the same way, they would be in the bottom 3. Swap their manager & team for ours for the last ten mins v Madrid & they would have created at least one scoring chance.

We need to turn up today with attitude & if we do, we'll win.
 
Blue Mooner said:
Are you 'really' praising Sunderland who are playing out of their skin to avoid being in the 'bottom three' !! Maybe if Sunderland players had played like that all season they wouldn't be fighting relegation?

I find the slagging of our players who got us to the champions league semi final (well beyond the rags, Arsenal Chelsea by the way) disgusting quite frankly.

If I was in the City dressing room right now being slagged by the media after running my tripe out for 90 minutes I would be fired right up, if it was by my own fans, I'd be thinking what's the f*ckin point, with supporters like these who needs enemies. People seem to be confusing a lack of effort by being beaten by a better side.

Those players got us to a champions league semi final, further in that trophy than any time in our history and they are getting a slagging for it! Unbelievable.

To suggest for a second that those players didn't try is an insult to every single one of them and throws all the achievements that those same players have delivered for us over the last 5 years back in their faces.

At the moment I'm ashamed to be a City fan, because I'm associated with what looks like a bunch of ungrateful twats, and this in advance of a critical game that we need to win and when the players need our full support.
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What a clown. I don't know what he's been watching to come up with shit like this.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Incredibly simplistic view yet accusing others of thinking in 'black & white'.

Throwing the worn old 'divine right' bollocks at fans who have been going for nearly 50 years, simply because they don't share your view. It's not possible to reach this opinion by reasoned thought so we must think we have a devine right to beat 'anyone'.

If that is the limit of your understanding of all the many detailed points made by people on this forum, who don't share yiur view, it's not surprising you can't figure out why they feel as they do.

Read the thread on Oliver Holt's piece.

Go ask a football supporter who isn't a City fan whether they think Pellegrini has the squad operating to the level it should. Ask them if they would be motivated to run through a brick wall for him.

Go ask a few youth coaches whether they think he has helped the club in that area.
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Lets agree to disagree then. You still believe we have the squad of three years ago, clearly we havn't
 
mosssideblue said:
Read it again. I said all the blame. Based on that , do you agree or is he 100% to blame?
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He's to blame for a lot. I think he must take blame for the way the team sets up, and he takes the blame for not changing tactics when we've been rumbled. He can't take the blame for players lack of effort, that's down to them. He can't take the blame for players being unable to finish (Sterling a few, and Aguero has missed a few, or the sitters v Villa away). He also can't take the blame for players not taking responsibility on the pitch - which has definitely happened this season in big games.

Ultimately though, he'll take the fall.
 
malg said:
He's to blame for a lot. I think he must take blame for the way the team sets up, and he takes the blame for not changing tactics when we've been rumbled. He can't take the blame for players lack of effort, that's down to them. He can't take the blame for players being unable to finish (Sterling a few, and Aguero has missed a few, or the sitters v Villa away). He also can't take the blame for players not taking responsibility on the pitch - which has definitely happened this season in big games.

Ultimately though, he'll take the fall.
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Spot on and ultimately he will take the fall, but my argument has always been that he is not fully responsible.
 
mosssideblue said:
Spot on and ultimately he will take the fall, but my argument has always been that he is not fully responsible.
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Agreed. Players must take responsibility. Unfortunately in today's game, they'll take all the credit, but none of the blame.
 
mosssideblue said:
I agree sadly the buck stops with him, but that doesn't mean he is necessarily responsible. Yes, he does take some blame, but once the players cross the line, they take on some responsibility.
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Each team reflects the manager he has let most of the players give poor performances bar first 5 games and a few dotted in the season . With his strange tactical or stubborn choices continue to keep changing line ups sometimes 8 players at once hasn't improved any players in his 3 yrs . We're worse off now than when he arrived
 
We're not really here said:
Whilst the world has jumped on the Leicester bandwagon and everyone seems to be giving them hearty congratulations and slapping them on the back I just feel angry. Really, really angry. That is my only emotion. Fair play to them and all that but how the fuck are they Champions?
At this moment in time, and I admit this may change dramatically by tomorrow night, I really could kick our lazy, arrogant team all around their plush dressing room. I don't think anybody would deny we have the most talented team so how are we labouring to scrape 4th place and miles behind bloody Leicester?
The answer is because they don't fucking care. They don't want to work. Don't want to run and chase. They don't want it badly enough. They are a team of pampered superstars led by a weak, ineffectual manager. Souness was spot on. They pick and choose when they can be arsed. Sevilla, Kiev, Paris. Yeah we'll make an effort. Sadly those performances are greatly outweighed by lazy, shit displays.
So sorry Leicester I don't feel your joy at all. I'm pissed off and I can only hope those in charge at our club feel the same way.
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I'm really not happy either, no disrespect to Leicester but we must be really really bad to finish below them, I think the whole decision 3 years ago to sack Mancini and even worse to hire him with a manager who didn't really have any history of winning apart from a few minor trophies was a really terrible decision, may have worked for the first year but I think most of that team you could argue was still Mancinis, sure he brought 4 players into the team, but then he sold one of them the year after and things just got worse from then onwards. I mean we do have a talented team but it's also become an ageing team, there's so many players from that title winning team that are now 30, over 30 like Zaba, Yaya, Kompany even, In the summer Pep needs to decide who to keep and who he sells because a lot of them you could argue their best years are behind them now, so we have to build for the future, and also we need to get rid of the flops that Pellegrini/Directors have bought because a lot of those signings haven't worked, the ones from the last year probably deserve another chance, Sterling, Otamendi etc. but the ones from years before that have had MORE than long enough to settle in, Mangala, Fernando, Bony, they need to go because they aren't improving the team waiting on their sorry backsides to suddenly turn up and perform.

At the end of the day I spent ages this season and even last season for a bit blaming the players, but a hell of a lot of it comes down to the manager as well, just shows what a waste of time it has been for everyone involved that we have spent trying to give this guy time, sure clap him off today as a sign of respect and dignity, but I will definitely be looking to the future with Guardiola to see what that brings, I'd give Guardiola at least a season to sort it out as well because there's a lot of mess and decisions to sort out from Pellegrinis era. Nobody cares that we won the league cup, and just going on a run in the Champions League isn't good enough as a club we need to be able to challenge a hell of a lot better in the league as well.
 
bert38 said:
You'd dislike them more when they were relegated.
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Yes, being relegated was due to lack of skill - not effort.
Today we're not going to make the CL and its because of lack of effort.

Even Tevez couldn't help but have grit determination.
Honestly, Yaya and his birthday cake bollocks, honestly...WTF!

Leicester winning the league on grit, determination and togetherness shows what you scan achieve.

Us out of the CL places shows the other end of that very same scale.
 
HolisticJim said:
Yes, being relegated was due to lack of skill - not effort.
Today we're not going to make the CL and its because of lack of effort.

Even Tevez couldn't help but have grit determination.
Honestly, Yaya and his birthday cake bollocks, honestly...WTF!

Leicester winning the league on grit, determination and togetherness shows what you scan achieve.

Us out of the CL places shows the other end of that very same scale.
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Mate I'm as gutted as you.
 
Angry we've actually thrown matches away for one competition. Are they actually for real? Fair enough if we had daylight between the team in 5th but we fucking didn't!
 
I am so so angry right now.
Horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach.
United fans texting me with with 'tick tock'.
 
mosssideblue said:
City has cost me in xs of 2K this season but I don't rock up thinking we have a divine right to beat anyone who dares to tread on our turf. Nor do I think football is as black and white as you and many others seam to think it is. Sure, we could have done much better, but I appreciate when humans are up against humans, any outcome is possible (result and performance).

Putting blame and anger purely down to the manager, is simply naive IMO.

Will I be stumping up £2k again next season, you can bet your arse I will
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Surely not beating a single side in the top 8 is his fault?
 
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