The battle for 4th place

[aguero93:20]

Me to. He should only be banned for his album reviews.

You need to go back and read my reasons ;)

 

[BimboBob]

You need to go back and read my reasons ;)

I'm tired, it's been a long day, can you bullet point them for me?

 

[aguero93:20]

I'm tired, it's been a long day, can you bullet point them for me?

• We're relying on west ham
• Mark's on a short road to a vengaboys thread
• We all like him really (not really) and it'd be a shame if he got lynched.

 

[BimboBob]

• We're relying on west ham
• Mark's on a short road to a vengaboys thread
• We all like him really (not really) and it'd be a shame if he got lynched.

Then I'm in full agreement.

 

[aguero93:20]

Then I'm in full agreement.

That's that sorted then, I've got a hammer and a rope.

 

[BimboBob]

That's that sorted then, I've got a hammer and a rope.

Ooh a hammer. Like it.

 

[aguero93:20]

Ooh a hammer. Like it.

If the hammers don't hammer the rags.....

 

[BimboBob]

If the hammers don't hammer the rags.....

It's a good choice. Wonder what the reverse would be...mooning at us?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

• We're relying on west ham
• Mark's on a short road to a vengaboys thread
• We all like him really (not really) and it'd be a shame if he got lynched.

no it wouldn't.

 

[Healdplace]

Here are the updated possibilities and it's no longer in our own hands:
Lowest we can realistically finish is 5th as West Ham are 16 goals worse off than us.
Rags win both and we're 5th unless we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates in which case we'll be 4th and Arse 5th.
Rags get 4 points - we're 4th if we win at Swansea, and third if we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates. Rags would be 5th. However we're 5th if we fail to win at Swansea.
Rags get three points - we're 4th if we win at Swansea, and third if we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates. Rags would be 5th. A draw at Swansea should be sufficient but we'll be biting our fingernails down to the elbows every time Swansea attack.
Rags get fewer than three points - we're third or fourth.

Or to phrase it more simply and assume that Arsenal will not lose to Villa at home.

If united win at West Ham on Tuesday then on Sunday we MUST beat Swansea and hope that United lose or draw at home to Bournemouth.

Either of those results would see us 4th if we win.

United win both games and we are toast and can do nothing to alter that. Even winning at Swansea we miss out on CL by one point.

The one extra point we could have had on so many recent occasions. Like Southampton where we kept Aguero on the bench at 4-2 and brought defenders on instead.

If United draw at West Ham on Tuesday then on Sunday we get CL if we win whatever United do v Bournemouth.

We also get CL with a draw at Swansea provided United fail to beat Bournemouth at home on Sunday.

If United lose at West Ham on Tuesday then a draw v Swansea on Sunday gets us CL whatever United do (unless they win at least 18-0 v Bournemouth and we call in the fraud squad to investigate if that happens!)

If we lose v Swansea and United lose v West Ham we would still get CL if United failed to win at home to Bournemouth.

West Ham are effectively out of the equation for CL as they are 16 goals behind us in GD so would have to beat United 7-0 and then win 8-0 at Stoke and catch us if we lost 1-0 at Swansea.

Though West Ham will get Europa League if they beat United and Stoke and will get 5th if United also fail to beat Bournemouth.

 

[aguero93:20]

Or to phrase it more simply and assume that Arsenal will not lose to Villa at home.

If united win at West Ham on Tuesday then on Sunday we MUST beat Swansea and hope that United lose or draw at home to Bournemouth.

Either of those results would see us 4th if we win.

United win both games and we are toast and can do nothing to alter that. Even winning at Swansea we miss out on CL by one point.

The one extra point we could have had on so many recent occasions. Like Southampton where we kept Aguero on the bench at 4-2 and brought defenders on instead.

If United draw at West Ham on Tuesday then on Sunday we get CL if we win whatever United do v Bournemouth.

We also get CL with a draw at Swansea provided United fail to beat Bournemouth at home on Sunday.

If United lose at West Ham on Tuesday then a draw v Swansea on Sunday gets us CL whatever United do (unless they win 17-0 v Bournemouth and we call in the fraud squad to investigate if that happens!)

If we lose v Swansea and United lose v West Ham we would still get CL if United failed to win at home to Bournemouth.

West Ham are effectively out of the equation for CL as they are 16 goals behind us in GD so would have to beat United 7-0 and then win 8-0 at Stoke and catch us if we lost 1-0 at Swansea.

Come on you irons!

 

[kismet]

Or to phrase it more simply and assume that Arsenal will not lose to Villa at home.

If united win at West Ham on Tuesday then on Sunday we MUST beat Swansea and hope that United lose or draw at home to Bournemouth.

Either of those results would see us 4th if we win.

United win both games and we are toast and can do nothing to alter that. Even winning at Swansea we miss out on CL by one point.

The one extra point we could have had on so many recent occasions. Like Southampton where we kept Aguero on the bench at 4-2 and brought defenders on instead.

If United draw at West Ham on Tuesday then on Sunday we get CL if we win whatever United do v Bournemouth.

We also get CL with a draw at Swansea provided United fail to beat Bournemouth at home on Sunday.

If United lose at West Ham on Tuesday then a draw v Swansea on Sunday gets us CL whatever United do (unless they win at least 18-0 v Bournemouth and we call in the fraud squad to investigate if that happens!)

If we lose v Swansea and United lose v West Ham we would still get CL if United failed to win at home to Bournemouth.

West Ham are effectively out of the equation for CL as they are 16 goals behind us in GD so would have to beat United 7-0 and then win 8-0 at Stoke and catch us if we lost 1-0 at Swansea.

Good summary.

I feel it's all down to West Ham and the last ever game at Upton Park. Shocked by how the Swans put four past them. Hard to predict.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Am I right in saying that 6th gets West Ham a Europa qualifying spot? Therefore they still
have something to play for?

 

[mcfcwefighttillthe end]

Why all the doom and gloom, this club has acheived things in the last few years that we could never of ever of dreamed of, so lets take a look from the the glass half full side (rather than just moan about everything and everyone )
We get 4th place and everyone is happy we go on to achieve who knows.
We finish 5th and so Pep comes in and over the next few years he proves what a brilliant manager he is,by first of all winning the prem and domestic supremacy and then we domininate the world. This whole project if that's what you want to call it was never going to be easy and there will be setbacks, and it may take a few years more, but hey we now get talked about all the time by the press ( and yes they hate us ) for being who we are
Can't wait for next season
BLUEMOON

 

[CityForever45]

Am I right in saying that 6th gets West Ham a Europa qualifying spot? Therefore they still
have something to play for?

Yes they have, and Southampton is right behind them, they can't afford to lose against united. But honestly, i'm more concerned about us, even if West Ham gets a result, i doubt we'll be able to beat Swansea.

 

[Healdplace]

Yes Bluematt23 - as our spot is vacated from winning the Cup given that we can not finish lower than 5th so take that (better) Europa spot - which gives direct entry into the group stages with no qualifier. This means that slot from the cup is added to a side one below us. Same is true if we get into CL of course - our cup slot in Europa is added onto the league placings.

 

[Proy]

Yes they have, and Southampton is right behind them, they can't afford to lose against united. But honestly, i'm more concerned about us, even if West Ham gets a result, i doubt we'll be able to beat Swansea.

This is my biggest issue at the moment. Forget all the different permutations surrounding results for those around us, at the end of the day we may be in a place next Sunday whereby winning will guarantee us CL football. I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in us going and winning that football match. Non.

That is how fucking bad this season has been. I genuinely believe we will fuck up yet another favour if West Ham provide one on Tuesday

 

[hutton who blue]

I think it's safe to say accepting all the permutations, we're praying West Ham perform on Tuesday and take something from the game and City perform against Swansea on Sunday and get the win which we'll almost certainly have to do.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

I think it's safe to say accepting all the permutations, we're praying West Ham perform on Tuesday and take something from the game and City perform against Swansea on Sunday and get the win which we'll almost certainly have to do.

What will be will be, I've giving over caring.

The manager and players aren't arsed so why should I be.

 

[ManCitizens.]

I don't care what anybody says, this is fucking shameful. We're relying on other teams for Champions League football when we have the best squad by a mile... and people want us to stay behind and clap that old buffoon. NOT GOOD ENOUGH