I think both campaigns are being entirely led by people from the 1% acting in self interest. My vote is self interested in the sense that I will vote in the interests of my values and the regions of the U.K. That I care about mostThe silent majority will vote remain and so will begin another generation of people who will appear on our screens in 20 years time going but,but,but they told me it was much safer to stay in the eu and we wouldn't end up picking up the pieces for the implosion of the euro because we weren't in it.
I have unfortunately spent the best part of my life working for big private banks and you are being taken for a mug if you don't think the people in this system backing the remain agenda are not doing it for their own financial positions and trust me it's not so that the average guy on the street has a better life.
Yes but we don't have a system that gives any reward for that, they could get 4m votes every time if it comes with 2 seats it is just a very expensive exercise in achieving a poor end result4m votes says otherwise. It's not their fault they are not in a true democracy.
You don't think the aim of the EU is a closer federalist state? Really?
Have you not considered the short term consequences to the world economy and Europe of a crumbling EU, 2008 would be small time and the suffering would be huge. A break up of the EU could occur without disaster over a period of time in an organised and coordinated way, so it is not inevitably a catastrophe . But If what you say happened a crumbling , a set of dominoes , then you would have some big economies defaulting, some periods of utter chaos both currency wise and trade wise.I don't think anyone will have Schengen soon.
And if the uk pulls out then I think we will be followed by quite a few others and the whole thing will come crumbling down. So it won't be much of an issue.
Facts so often are, our system of voting is, but...... That's democracy it was voted on and people chose this systemWhat a silly post.
The vote is scare taxes vs Old Testament optimism. The scare tactics may or may not be bull shit , they may be very real and I guess the same could be said for the land of milk and honey.The remaniacs are a lot worse than the outers for bullshit scare tactics.
350 pages, and at last a decent well argued case to remain. Shame there aren't any others.
The vote is scare taxes vs Old Testament optimism. The scare tactics may or may not be bull shit , they may be very real and I guess the same could be said for the land of milk and honey.
350 pages, and at last a decent well argued case to remain. Shame there aren't any others.
It´s good to know that big business, the IMF and the White House have our best interests at heart. First time for everything.
Tbh mate I think that has much to do with how the remain case is presented, both on here and nationally. Most remainers are pretty condescending, and can't help include lazy stereotypes of brexiters as racist, mail readers, or just plain stupid. Ironically, many of their own views turn out to be formed on nothing more solid than media soundbites and the scare tactics of which we are all now becoming tired (maybe they would enjoy the mail!). I think on the rare occasions a remainer manages to escape the assumption that brexiters are retarded racists, as well as their own fear and negativity there are some compelling reasons to consider not leaving.I have quoted the same post from previous pages. The cases for remaining in fall on deaf ears.
It's good to know Murdoch, Johnson , Putin and the hedge funds care for you too!It´s good to know that big business, the IMF and the White House have our best interests at heart. First time for everything.
Ids a true modem day wilberforceThey don't.only stockbroker farage and Etonian Boris does. Oh and cares for the ordinary man ids...
Honestly I see the complete opposite remain is a camp that is happy enough with the way things are to not take a tellers risk that at best achieves little and at worst is a disaster.Tbh mate I think that has much to do with how the remain case is presented, both on here and nationally. Most remainers are pretty condescending, and can't help include lazy stereotypes of brexiters as racist, mail readers, or just plain stupid. Ironically, many of their own views turn out to be formed on nothing more solid than media soundbites and the scare tactics of which we are all now becoming tired (maybe they would enjoy the mail!). I think on the rare occasions a remainer manages to escape the assumption that brexiters are retarded racists, as well as their own fear and negativity there are some compelling reasons to consider not leaving.
What a daft and blinkered thing to say... Never mind.Yes but we don't have a system that gives any reward for that, they could get 4m votes every time if it comes with 2 seats it is just a very expensive exercise in achieving a poor end result
It is true though , it's a statement of fact not opinion UKIP got two seats after promising a revolution I happen to think it is wrong and reward should be proportional but the public chose otherwise.What a daft and blinkered thing to say... Never mind.
Because folly in the Middle East , bankers greed and rash spending have crushed the world economy and left people riddled with fear. With fear people search for someone or something to blame and unite againstWhy is this happening now?
Because folly in the Middle East , bankers greed and rash spending have crushed the world economy and left people riddled with fear. With fear people search for someone or something to blame and unite against