sorry but thats no true, for a player of his type it's incredible that he does not get a lot more "hits" his ability to escape opposition players tackles is incredible and probably one of the reasons he has ankle trouble.
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David Silva
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sorry but thats no true, for a player of his type it's incredible that he does not get a lot more "hits" his ability to escape opposition players tackles is incredible and probably one of the reasons he has ankle trouble.
Not sure I've seen us have the 'perfect balance' in nearly two years tbh.
I am Pellegrini's hater, but against Madrid before Silva had to go off, we had very, very good balance, his mistake was moving KDB out wide, in my opinion
BillyShears
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TBH, I think they will both need to work harder on the defensive side of the game under Pep and probably both be more disciplined. KDB will also have to up his pass completion stats, which I think is all about concentration rather than lack of technique but we shall see.
You made a good point earlier, Pep does not usually play with a number 10 so these guys are probably going to be fighting for an Iniesta type role or a wide position in the front three.
De Bruyne's concentration when making the simpler passes is definitely something which he can improve upon quite dramatically. The general play of our attackers when we don't have the ball (not just Silva and KDB) will be one of the first things that Pep will deal with. It's another thing which I fear will be difficult for Silva though, the amount of running, pressing, and closing that playing under Pep requires again will be putting added pressure on his already brittle ankles.
During the Arsenal and Swansea games when KDB is in the middle of the pitch, he is a constant danger. creating and having scoring opertunities and is involved far more, out wide he is far less effective and tends to disappear from a game.
To be fair De Bruyne can drift out of games even when he plays the same position for 90mins. He was probably overworked when he first joined us and probably not 100% fit after his injury. But he will need to be incredibly fit to play his sort of game in the middle on a regular basis.
Great point, his one major weakness, gives too many sloppy passes, that will be a big problem under Pep, loss of possession is not acceptable,De Bruyne's concentration when making the simpler passes is definitely something which he can improve upon quite dramatically. The general play of our attackers when we don't have the ball (not just Silva and KDB) will be one of the first things that Pep will deal with. It's another thing which I fear will be difficult for Silva though, the amount of running, pressing, and closing that playing under Pep requires again will be putting added pressure on his already brittle ankles.
Every player's fitness at this club is going to have to improve considerably from before and it willTo be fair De Bruyne can drift out of games even when he plays the same position for 90mins. He was probably overworked when he first joined us and probably not 100% fit after his injury. But he will need to be incredibly fit to play his sort of game in the middle on a regular basis.
Every player's fitness at this club is going to have to improve considerably from before and it will
Yes but how quickly? Like many of the players De Bruyne will miss most of pre season because of the Euros/Copa America. Once the season starts we're quickly into World Cup international breaks. Getting the players fitter is going to take time.
If we can get good money for Nasri, I think he will goI could be way off the mark here but I don't see Pep using him in the attacking trio, I believe he'd be more suited to the Iniesta role in Pep's template. Problem there is I also think the same of DeBruyne and Nasri.
In saying that, I would love to see what Pep can do with him, great footballer.
BillyShears
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I could be way off the mark here but I don't see Pep using him in the attacking trio, I believe he'd be more suited to the Iniesta role in Pep's template. Problem there is I also think the same of DeBruyne and Nasri.
I think one of Silva or Nasri will definitely go this summer - if I had to guess which one I'd say Nasri.
Agreed, that's going to make this 1st season so difficult for Pep, but there again it's the same for most of the big teamsYes but how quickly? Like many of the players De Bruyne will miss most of pre season because of the Euros/Copa America. Once the season starts we're quickly into World Cup international breaks. Getting the players fitter is going to take time.
But also, maybe a wonderful chance for the young players to shine under the new boss, and if they do, Pep will give them their chance.
OB1
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De Bruyne's concentration when making the simpler passes is definitely something which he can improve upon quite dramatically. The general play of our attackers when we don't have the ball (not just Silva and KDB) will be one of the first things that Pep will deal with. It's another thing which I fear will be difficult for Silva though, the amount of running, pressing, and closing that playing under Pep requires again will be putting added pressure on his already brittle ankles.
Exactly, and the way the Premier League is and how it was won and lost means that in addition to all the technique required, City have to be quicker, stronger and hungrier. The squad has to be freshened up with new, younger players; that does not mean no place for older players but it will make it harder for them to keep up.
BillyShears
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Exactly, and the way the Premier League is and how it was won and lost means that in addition to all the technique required, City have to be quicker, stronger and hungrier. The squad has to be freshened up with new, younger players; that does not mean no place for older players but it will make it harder for them to keep up.
Maybe it's just me but it's the freshening up of the squad and the new impetus being put into it which excites me. If that means that the likes of Silva, Toure, Nasri are phased out/moved on I'm genuinely not in the least bit arsed. The dressing room has needed clean broom for a while.
OB1
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I think one of Silva or Nasri will definitely go this summer - if I had to guess which one I'd say Nasri.
Maybe; there's barely a player that I would insist in keeping and Nasri is not on that list but Nasri has the technique to meet Pep's standards. The difference in our passing when he came on at Swansea! Nasri would need to show Pep that he can and will put the graft in and not expect to play every game; if he does that, he would be a great option to include in the cast of thousands that Pep likes for midfield.
OB1
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Maybe it's just me but it's the freshening up of the squad and the new impetus being put into it which excites me. If that means that the likes of Silva, Toure, Nasri are phased out/moved on I'm genuinely not in the least bit arsed. The dressing room has needed clean broom for a while.
Likewise; the thing is, those buys are the one's that have the technique and I'd love to have seen them in a 4-3-3 as our equivalent of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquests / Toure but in the Prem, they would get overrun now (and maybe would have previously).
BillyShears
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Likewise; the thing is, those buys are the one's that have the technique and I'd love to have seen them in a 4-3-3 as our equivalent of Xavi, Iniesta and Busquests / Toure but in the Prem, they would get overrun now (and maybe would have previously).
Yeah, I also think that Pep will not failed to have noticed the energy that sides like Liverpool and Spurs now have in midfield and the relentless way in which they play and press. It's just not in the make up of those three players to do that.
I agree with your post about Nasri from earlier but I think he's a goner anyway. The other thing we shouldn't forget is that these guys are on like 150/200k per week. You can't really afford to be carrying 'squad' players on money like that and the books will also have to be balanced once our incomings are done this summer.
yankcitizen76
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What is his fitness level supposed to be? Any chance Spain has him on the bench to start the Euros? It's been a while since he's looked himself.
OB1
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Yeah, I also think that Pep will not failed to have noticed the energy that sides like Liverpool and Spurs now have in midfield and the relentless way in which they play and press. It's just not in the make up of those three players to do that.
I agree with your post about Nasri from earlier but I think he's a goner anyway. The other thing we shouldn't forget is that these guys are on like 150/200k per week. You can't really afford to be carrying 'squad' players on money like that and the books will also have to be balanced once our incomings are done this summer.
You always have to balance the books.
Neville Kneville
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Silva etc might actually be able to do some of the stuff Pep requires if they are playing in a balanced team, & getting plenty of rest inbetween.
Being asked to track back 60 yards after 20 year old wingers with Kolarov & Yaya Toure as the nearest help, is unlikely to be a situation Silva will ever face again.
He may have to do lots of small 10 yard covering runs instead, as one of a large group, all doing the same, & which he may actually have no problem whatsoever doing.
Being asked to track back 60 yards after 20 year old wingers with Kolarov & Yaya Toure as the nearest help, is unlikely to be a situation Silva will ever face again.
He may have to do lots of small 10 yard covering runs instead, as one of a large group, all doing the same, & which he may actually have no problem whatsoever doing.