Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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blueplan said:
Unlikely. For the simple reason Hart has not shown the technical abilities and nous. If he has Hart would have those manifested by now.
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However, that would be taking into account Joe is already beyond the point of learning, which he isn't.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:




Thoughts on this?

Taking off the blue tinted specs, and putting sentiment aside. I think that'd be brilliant deal, personally.

Joe has inherent flaws to his game which don't make him suited to playing in Guardiola side, Ter Stegen is the perfect fit and is a very good goalkeeper in his own right, much younger too. We'd also come away with a £20m profit that we could put towards strengthening other areas of the squad.

I know the mere idea of this will have some spitting feathers, but I think it'd be the best thing for the club and we'd be a stronger side for it.
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My only thought was "The Sun"

If it were true, I would tend to agree with you.
 
This season our defence hasn't had a clue what to do with the ball thanks to the inept coaching of Manuel. They dither and mess around with it and it ends up back with Joe who is then under a lot of pressure. Next season under Pep the defence will be able to build a lot better and there will be less likelihood of the ball being back at Hart's feet with onrushing attackers anyway
 
It feels wrong to sell Hart, even if that's a crazy tempting figure.

Longest serving player, home grown, and I love his passion. To me, that's more important than money and it's not as if he's costing us points on a regular basis, quite the opposite in fact.

For that reason, i'd say no and offer them Bony instead.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
Sentiment aside, I think selling Joe for £40m and getting Ter Stegen for £20m would be fantastic business.

Joe has inherent flaws to his game which make him ill suited to play in a Guardiola side, Ter Stegen is a perfect fit and is a great goalkeeper in his own right, he's the much younger player too.

We'd get a great fee for Joe and would be able to put the £20m profit towards strengthening other areas of the squad. That cash injection might even help us fund a move for Pogba.

It'd be sad to see Joe go, and unpalatable as it would be to see him go to Everton, it would undoubtedly make business sense and sense from a football perspective. It'd make us stronger IMO.

I'd be happy with it, personally - all things considered.
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Only problem is, Barca have already told us that they won't part with Ter Stegen for a penny less than the same £40m fee.
 
Burtonblue said:
This 100!
Pep likes a sweeper keeper. Joe most certainly is not that.
I think his days are numbered under Pep's rule as i very much doubt he can be coached to become something he is not natural at..
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How do the Wizards of BM know this? Pep likes a sweeper-keeper? The best two of recent times were Valdes and Neuer, neither of whom were Guardiola acquisitions, but both established number 1's when he took over. Maybe his strength as a coach is getting the best out of what he has? If he has keepers who are going to be leaving their line regularly and often, he can harness that to best effect. We will see how he approaches having one that doesn't.
 
Vino9 said:
Reading some of the comments on here about Joe's distribution is laughable. Do any of you know if that isn't the instructions from the manager to boom it up the pitch .... No . Does anybody make themselves available for the ball to feet when the ball is played back to him , not often. From dead ball kicks he has to try and pick out our fullbacks because the oppo centre back just heads it back , so a few will go out of play.
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Voice of reason. He's up there with Kun, Spanish Dave and Fernandinho on the list of players we shouldn't sell
 
Without Hart we would have lost even more games this season....even when the rest of the team had stopped trying, he was still coming up with big saves to keep us in games.....hope we dont sell him!
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Voice of reason. He's up there with Kun, Spanish Dave and Fernandinho on the list of players we shouldn't sell
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Only Aguero ahead of him on my keep list.

Would be utter madness to think about letting him go this summer.

The need to refresh and upgrade lies elsewhere.

Totally bored with hearing about his distribution; let's just see how he does when players are making themselves available consistently for the short ball.
 
Haha Hart has been our best player in the Champions League since we started playing in it.

Why would he agree to go to a non Champions League club now, aged 29. He's too good for them.
 
Vino9 said:
Reading some of the comments on here about Joe's distribution is laughable. Do any of you know if that isn't the instructions from the manager to boom it up the pitch .... No . Does anybody make themselves available for the ball to feet when the ball is played back to him , not often. From dead ball kicks he has to try and pick out our fullbacks because the oppo centre back just heads it back , so a few will go out of play.
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i thought it was clear from watching the england game where he appeared to try and release the ball to his defence at all times that his distribution at city was in some way forced by MP's tactics and our defence's reluctance to take the ball off him

he'll be number one next season, and for many more to come
 
I call bullshit, they don't have 40mil for one rich owner yes but FFP put paid to that..


How much did Martinez get in compensation for being sacked?

More than we paid Hughes?
 
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