John Stones

[Bewar3them00n]

The perfect successor to Vinny ( eventually) good footballer, 2 good feet, needs a decent coach, who wouldn't want to play under Pep?!

 

[Dax777]

But who is a better judge. You and the above opinion or Pep and Josecunt.

Kneville of course. Silly question. :)

 

[Dax777]

I genuinely believe that Stones is a good player who may turn out to be an even better one in the future. However the figures being banded about to acquire his services are just plain ridiculous. Personally I would sooner us buy Laporte from Bilbao he would be far better value for money for a similar amount of talent.

This. It shocks me to no end that he has garnered a reputation as being shit. I didn't even watch him the year folks thought he was good. ".A." Used to come here daily waxing lyrical about how we should Sign him and the other kid at Everton. How highly rated he was etc.

Then this season, I figured alright let see what this kid is all about. He has been very good, and you could easily project him being better on a possession based team. He is young, so there is a risk. And talent sometimes plateau. But nothing I've seen this season suggest he is going anywhere bit up.

Solid all round footballer. Including defending.

 

[Neville Kneville]

But who is a better judge. You and the above opinion or Pep and Josecunt.

I didn't actually give a opinion. I said that they don't know & would be gambling on him improving, if either was to sign him, which is true.

No way in million years would either sign Stones if they believed he was going to turn in the same performances as this season. Nor would Fat Sam or anyone.

The fee is based on what he might do rather than what he is doing.

I have no idea whether he will become the player they hope, & if we sign him, I would hope Pep is right. If Mourinho signs him, I would hope it's yet another of his transfer mistakes, to add to the huge catalogue of previous failures.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Kneville of course. Silly question. :)

Stupid reply seeing as I didn't even mention what I thought of him.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

The fee is based on what he might do rather than what he is doing.

I'd rather pay for what a player could do than what he has done (Schweinsteiger) and, as we've found out plenty of times, there's no guarantee that a player in great form with replicate that for us (Bony being an obvious recent example).

Obviously there are exceptions to all three sets of circumstances but every single transfer is a gamble. I'm just happy that we're showing ambition.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Stupid reply seeing as I didn't even mention what I thought of him.

But you are a better judge.

 

[blueparrot]

I didn't actually give a opinion. I said that they don't know & would be gambling on him improving, if either was to sign him, which is true.

No way in million years would either sign Stones if they believed he was going to turn in the same performances as this season. Nor would Fat Sam or anyone.

The fee is based on what he might do rather than what he is doing.

I have no idea whether he will become the player they hope, & if we sign him, I would hope Pep is right. If Mourinho signs him, I would hope it's yet another of his transfer mistakes, to add to the huge catalogue of previous failures.

He really needs to sign for the right manager though. when the day comes when he tries to play out, loses the ball and costs a goal. Pep would probably support him and help him probably because we'd have scored more. When he did it for Mourinho hanging onto a 1-0 lead he'd be thrown under the bus. So for him signing for Mourinho is the bigger gamble.

 

[Dax777]

Stupid reply seeing as I didn't even mention what I thought of him.

Relax dude. Was kidding with SWP. You are so wound up.

 

[Dax777]

I'd rather pay for what a player could do than what he has done (Schweinsteiger) and, as we've found out plenty of times, there's no guarantee that a player in great form with replicate that for us (Bony being an obvious recent example).

Obviously there are exceptions to all three sets of circumstances but every single transfer is a gamble. I'm just happy that we're showing ambition.

Ping!

 

[Slashman X]

This. It shocks me to no end that he has garnered a reputation as being shit. I didn't even watch him the year folks thought he was good. ".A." Used to come here daily waxing lyrical about how we should Sign him and the other kid at Everton. How highly rated he was etc.

Then this season, I figured alright let see what this kid is all about. He has been very good, and you could easily project him being better on a possession based team. He is young, so there is a risk. And talent sometimes plateau. But nothing I've seen this season suggest he is going anywhere bit up.

Solid all round footballer. Including defending.

His head seemed to be gone this season though, always seemed like he was too big for his boots. Hopefully a transfer to a team full of world class players will humble him a little bit.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Relax dude. Was kidding with SWP. You are so wound up.

I'm not wound up whatsoever.

I just don't want to be replying to posts in 6 pages time, telling me I've said I'm a better judge of a player than Pep Guardiola, purely because I have an opinion, which would be seriously boring for me & is exactly how this stuff ends up.

 

[IWasHere]

I'd rather pay for what a player could do than what he has done (Schweinsteiger) and, as we've found out plenty of times, there's no guarantee that a player in great form with replicate that for us (Bony being an obvious recent example).

Obviously there are exceptions to all three sets of circumstances but every single transfer is a gamble. I'm just happy that we're showing ambition.

Never thought I'd say this but I agree



Prick

 

[Neville Kneville]

But you are a better judge.

Cheers.

Don't think so at all myself but if others have such a high opinion of me I can only be flattered.

 

[Dax777]

I'm not wound up whatsoever.

I just don't want to be replying to posts in 6 pages time, telling me I've said I'm a better judge of a player than Pep Guardiola, purely because I have an opinion, which would be seriously boring for me & is exactly how this stuff ends up.

I thought SWP's retort was silly. If we go by who is a better judge on everything, then we might as well scrap every discussion as the worst coach in the league is probably still generally more knowledgeable than the most knowledgeable fan. It's a cop out response to a discussion. I was just having fun with it.

 

[Dax777]

Cheers.

Don't think so at all myself but if others have such a high opinion of me I can only be flattered.

Now you are getting it. :)

 

[BlueDeadHead]

no Boateng is not a good defender.

That is really irrelevant isn't it. He is superb in a Pep team and that is all that matters. Same with Stones.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I thought SWP's retort was silly. If we go by who is a better judge on everything, then we might as well scrap every discussion as the worst coach in the league is probably still generally more knowledgeable than the most knowledgeable fan. It's a cop out response to a discussion. I was just having fun with it.

Fair enough.

Imo every transfer is a gamble & a huge number don't work out. Stones could turn out genius or shite for all we know on here. But it's a lot of money & it is most definitely a gamble.

 

[NQCitizen]

Is there a pep central defender that isn't routinely slated?

You'd think Pique and Boateng were just the luckiest men on the planet with some of the stuff that's written here.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Is there a pep central defender that isn't routinely slated?

You'd think Pique and Boateng were just the luckiest men on the planet with some of the stuff that's written here.

Imo they deserve it.

There are very few quality central defenders in the current game imo, in fact defenders in general. That's how come Barca have a midfielder playing cb. There is nothing to say 'why not ?'.