Toni Kroos

City_Sean said:
Apparently so, but I can't see him leaving Madrid.
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Still think there's a game of chess being played. Personally I thought that Felix Kroos' quotes from the other day said everything that needed to be said. I don't think that Toni will stay at Madrid if Pogba goes there simply because I don't think he'll accept being paid less than Poggy.

Then again I read somewhere yesterday that Madrid are going cold on Poggy because of what Juve are asking for. If Real Madrid think you're overvaluing a player then you really have gone too far!
 
BillyShears said:
Still think there's a game of chess being played. Personally I thought that Felix Kroos' quotes from the other day said everything that needed to be said. I don't think that Toni will stay at Madrid if Pogba goes there simply because I don't think he'll accept being paid less than Poggy.

Then again I read somewhere yesterday that Madrid are going cold on Poggy because of what Juve are asking for. If Real Madrid think you're overvaluing a player then you really have gone too far!
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The money that Juve are asking for Pogba is frankly absurd. With Kroos his performances at the Euros have gone up another gear, I'd love him but surely not even Madrid are stupid enough to sell him?
 
Dax777 said:
It's not a thought, Modric is a level above him. And for what it's worth I think we already have our deep lying Playmaker in Gundogan
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You should compare Modric with Gündogan. Kroos is a very different kind of midfielder. More like Pirlo.
Seeing Kroos dropping deep in the German side to get nearly every build up starting is to me exactly what we need at City and why I understand if Pep wants him. He was again terrific vs Poland in the role that the manager wants him to play. But you won't see Kroos doing a lot of one on one battles. He's too clever and with his vision he out thinks opponents getting the ball and get the build up going. A very important member of the German team and he could be similar when playing for us. It's just that it'll be hard to get him.
 
BillyShears said:
Still think there's a game of chess being played. Personally I thought that Felix Kroos' quotes from the other day said everything that needed to be said. I don't think that Toni will stay at Madrid if Pogba goes there simply because I don't think he'll accept being paid less than Poggy.

Then again I read somewhere yesterday that Madrid are going cold on Poggy because of what Juve are asking for. If Real Madrid think you're overvaluing a player then you really have gone too far!
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I think it was a Marca piece where they had been quoted something like €140m for the transfer and €150m for wages. They are pricing themselves out of selling him.
 
eversince 76 said:
You should compare Modric with Gündogan. Kroos is a very different kind of midfielder. More like Pirlo.
Seeing Kroos dropping deep in the German side to get nearly every build up starting is to me exactly what we need at City and why I understand if Pep wants him. He was again terrific vs Poland in the role that the manager wants him to play. But you won't see Kroos doing a lot of one on one battles. He's too clever and with his vision he out thinks opponents getting the ball and get the build up going. A very important member of the German team and he could be similar when playing for us. It's just that it'll be hard to get him.
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I've got no doubt that Pep will want Kroos but it certainly will be hard to get him. I've said multiple times that I would love us to sign Kroos: is there a better passer of the ball on the European stage at this time?
 
City_Sean said:
The money that Juve are asking for Pogba is frankly absurd. With Kroos his performances at the Euros have gone up another gear, I'd love him but surely not even Madrid are stupid enough to sell him?
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They want to keep him I guess so are setting a price that's ridiculous. If I was a Juve fan I'd be very happy with that.
 
If Real are releasing Kroos, i am a hundred percent sure that means they have an upgrade coming their way ( Pogba ? ).
Anyway, he would be a great pairing with Fernh / Gundogan.
 
OB1 said:
I've got no doubt that Pep will want Kroos but it certainly will be hard to get him. I've said multiple times that I would love us to sign Kroos: is there a better passer of the ball on the European stage at this time?
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I'd like to know who is the 2nd best, 3rd best etc. We don't necessarily need the best in the world in every position. The whole is greater....
 
Neville Kneville said:
How does Kroos fit into a City team, with, let's say for argument, Aubameyang, Aguero, Sane/Sterling, Silva ?

The guy is the invisible man when not on the ball. Who drops out & why ?
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I'd say that Kroos would fit in alongside Gundogan and another midfielder. All those you mentioned wouldn't necessarily be effected as they play higher up. Other than Silva who more than likely wouldn't play as advanced a role.

Even so, there's nothing to suggest Silva, Kroos and Gundogan wouldn't be able to play together other than two of those three lacking in terms of a defensive contribution.

Yaya and Fernando would more than likely be the two to get dropped for Kroos and Gundogan.

Still not convinced he'd be an ideal signing for us though.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
I'd say that Kroos would fit in alongside Gundogan and another midfielder. All those you mentioned wouldn't necessarily be effected as they play higher up. Other than Silva who more than likely wouldn't play as advanced a role.

Even so, there's nothing to suggest Silva, Kroos and Gundogan wouldn't be able to play together other than two of those three lacking in terms of a defensive contribution.

Yaya and Fernando would more than likely be the two to get dropped for Kroos and Gundogan.

Still not convinced he'd be an ideal signing for us though.
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I was leaving out DeBruyne & Fernandinho, assuming them as guaranteed starters.

Can't see how having a non scoring, non tracking, non tackling brilliant passer, is a better option than the players we have already.

We are back to the 'how do we fit...x in the team' situation imo.
 
OB1 said:
I've got no doubt that Pep will want Kroos but it certainly will be hard to get him. I've said multiple times that I would love us to sign Kroos: is there a better passer of the ball on the European stage at this time?
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I could tell you my honest opinion and that would be: Yes, Kroos is the best passer of the ball. But than we would be in full agreement and that worries me ...
 
Tugay One Cup said:
I'd say that Kroos would fit in alongside Gundogan and another midfielder. All those you mentioned wouldn't necessarily be effected as they play higher up. Other than Silva who more than likely wouldn't play as advanced a role.

Even so, there's nothing to suggest Silva, Kroos and Gundogan wouldn't be able to play together other than two of those three lacking in terms of a defensive contribution.

Yaya and Fernando would more than likely be the two to get dropped for Kroos and Gundogan.

Still not convinced he'd be an ideal signing for us though.
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Out of curiosity why don't you think Kroos would be ideal?

Just to give you my two cents worth - I think he's absolutely the missing link for us. His passing range is made for a manager like Pep. His intelligence at the base of a midfield three is second to none. He compliments Gundogan perfectly. It's just a no brainer if we can get him IMO.
 
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