EU referendum

[TRUE BLUE NO1]

I live in Switzerland and they are doing just fine being not being in it. They even voted recently to pull out of the free movement of people, as they could see no benefit being in it, only negetives.
Everytime I go back to the UK I despair how bad its becoming.
Voting leave is nothing to do with Racism..It's about regaining control and choosing our own destiny (good or bad) like the Swiss do.
We did pretty good before we joined, and can see no reason why the that shouldn't continue.
The only ones to benefit by staying in are the fat cats, and they don't want the gravy train to end.

genuine question....didnt the EU block that vote against "freedom of movement" and its having to be settled in the courts? cheers mate

 

[Monkfish]

if you care about your kids there is only one way to vote

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

You seem to be ignoring the fact that Norway Pay into the EU to be part of the EEA, they are paying nearly as much as as per capita with no seat at the table or ability to change it.

Switzerland has never been part of the EU or the EEA so have organically created all the trade deals needed, we dont have that and it would take decades to get it.

the leave camp use these countries as beacons of light when they really shouldnt be.

And as i've said over and over, without any clue as to which direction the government would take on an exit we have no idea what we are getting.

What about the other hundreds of countries who are not part of the eu? Shall we ignore them as well.

 

[kaz7]

Cameron pleading with the public today,he is shitting himself as this might backfire on him

 

[yep]

Is this true?

How do Germany and France get money back and we get fuck all other than a big bill?

Apparently the UK is doing very well with drugs and prostitution! You could not make it up!

 

[grunge]

What about the other hundreds of countries who are not part of the eu? Shall we ignore them as well.

Those counties have never been part of the EU and have dealt with the trade agreements they need.

 

[Monkfish]

 

[Monkfish]

Majority of lemmings in favour of jumping off cliff

A new poll has revealed that over 50% of the lemming population favour jumping off the cliff to an almost certain messy and agonising death.

“The poll results are fascinating,” said lemming pollster Simon Williams.

“Lemmings have a happy, comfortable, enjoyable life on top of the cliff and yet many of them believe that a suicidal jump onto the jagged rocks below would give them a better quality of life.”

A senior lemming figure from the ‘Vote Jump’ campaign group explained.

“Some lemmings say that a huge drop onto jagged rocks would be fatal, but the fact is that no lemming really knows what would happen if we all jumped onto a bunch of jagged rocks; we could bounce, the rocks could disappear, or we could strike up a robust trading deal with the rocks.

“All of these are all very real possibilities.

“To say that we would all be broken and killed by the rocks is just blatant scaremongering by a centralised elite group who seemingly have no confidence in the resilient nature of us lemmings.”

A ‘Vote Jump’ supporter agreed.

“Yeah, we’d be better off jumping for definite,” he said.

“I mean, yeah, being on top of the cliff and not dying and everything is great, but there are so many voles and guinea pigs coming in now that it just doesn’t feel like a lemming cliff anymore, you know?”

 

[Chippy_boy]

Apparently the UK is doing very well with drugs and prostitution! You could not make it up!

You could. You could make anything up.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Those counties have never been part of the EU and have dealt with the trade agreements they need.

Some of them do ok though don't they. They trade both within the European Union and outside. They are good examples that we won't fall into the sea....

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

That as much as anything is reassuring me that I'm doing the right thing voting by Leave. Many thanks.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

If we were already Out of the EU, who could honestly say they'd vote ' In '...??

 

[Monkfish]

That as much as anything is reassuring me that I'm doing the right thing voting by Leave. Many thanks.

You were leaving on page 1, if you need reassurance now your as committed as Boris

 

[grunge]

Hang on, that might sound very nice as an aim of the eu but what's the benefit for the uk.

May be it might be better to spend the money on our nhs, roads , areas and towns of underdevelopment , schools etc. So your view is when we do well we don't give the money to the people of the U.K. But rather the people of Poland, Greece and Rumania etc?

what benenfit? The stronger the EU the Stronger the Member states will be, the more the EU bolsters the "little guys" the more they will put in in the future and help us. And as I already said there is the insurance of if we struggle we get bolstered by the other member states.

And as I already pointed out, that graph is a single extra payment that was requested as we did well, the graph is very selective and has one goal and thats to make people belive that we pay more than most, which we dont, Germany and France pay far more than we do, that 1 year they paid a little less than normal but that was still far more than we did.

to put it into context this year's budget is about £754bn so the extra was about %0.002 of our national budget, it wouldnt have gone anywhere near as far as you seem to think it would.

If you cut it down to a personal level, if you earn 2000 a month it would have cost you £4, so about a pint and a half if your lucky.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

A tree huggers charter. We can do that anyway.

 

[Tanzeylee]

Reads like an advert for Thomas Cook.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

You were leaving on page 1, if you need reassurance now your as committed as Boris

Many level headed Leavers won't approach the ballot box without asking themselves The question one last time.
Same for many Remains I'd guess.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

what benenfit? The stronger the EU the Stronger the Member states will be, the more the EU bolsters the "little guys" the more they will put in in the future and help us. And as I already said there is the insurance of if we struggle we get bolstered by the other member states.

And as I already pointed out, that graph is a single extra payment that was requested as we did well, the graph is very selective and has one goal and thats to make people belive that we pay more than most, which we dont, Germany and France pay far more than we do, that 1 year they paid a little less than normal but that was still far more than we did.

to put it into context this year's budget is about £754bn so the extra was about %0.002 of our national budget, it wouldnt have gone anywhere near as far as you seem to think it would.

If you cut it down to a personal level, if you earn 2000 a month it would have cost you £4, so about a pint and a half if your lucky.

You are kidding yourself if you think this is about parity. The difference between the uk German economy and Bulgaria Rumania economy is very wide. I doubt it's ever going to be the Bulgarians and Rumanians giving money to help the uk and Germans?

I am all for helping out but when we do well but there is a lot of investment and infrastructure needed ( esp outside London) which we should do to boost the uk economy. Additional generated money should be used in the uk.

 

[manctheknife]

Carefully posting stuff like that..I, m diabetic..

 

[mcfc1632]

It's utter bullshit that the government couldn't have helped SSI and Tata UK. Pretty much every major steel producing company does so. Germany given them tax free/reduced tax energy, Italy support projects to 'lessen the environmental impact' to the tune of about 1bn Euros and the French fund R&D. The government didn't help because it didn't want to, not because of some misguided view on EU legislation.

Hmmm - I can understand why you would think that 'at face value' but there are indeed many EU enforced controls over the provision of State-Aid that do indeed (without any shadow of a doubt) prevent support from the UK to such problem areas.

As an example, most people outside major cities will be aware that there are big developments in rolling out much improved broadband across England, Wales and NI - also people in Scotland (again outside the main cities) will be aware of this - they will have seen BT vehicles all over the place.

I can speak authoritatively on the blocks that the EU has directly put in place to allow the UK to upgrade its own fucking infrastructure!!!!

Broadband UK has had to be put in place to manage/control the project(s) and sooooo much energy, time and costs are put into getting approval from the EU. The Scottish Government have had to jump through hoops - taking fucking years!!! - to undertake procurements and get round 'state-aid' concerns when FFS when they just wanted to get on and roll out fucking broadband - it's a disgrace - many millions and years wasted.