EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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bluethrunthru said:
Eh? So Leave may have a plan but they can't tell us coz its a secret and anyway if they win their plan won't happen?? Why vote Leave then?

Remain make their contingency plan known and because it doesn't promise sunny uplands in the event of Leave winning they are incompetent and have no credible plan?

Fingers in ears la la la la la time?
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dave says win or lose he will still be prime minister and will run the country accordingly so for you it should be win win
 
At 8pm I was sat on the fence over the referendum. I have constant flitted between 'Leave' and 'Remain' for the past few months but finally this debate has made up my mind once and for all. I am 100% voting 'Leave' on Thursday.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Eh? So Leave may have a plan but they can't tell us coz its a secret and anyway if they win their plan won't happen??
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Watch my lips. The Civil Service will have prepared a series of options and a plan for Brexit. That's what they do. I was working for a Government ministry in 2010 at the time of the election and the transition is seamless as the Civil Servants in the department have studied what the incoming government are likely to do and prepare accordingly. There will be a paper outlining our options for leaving and what the preferred path is.
 
foxy said:
I have turned off #bbcdebate, I am sick of Sadiq Khan's aggression constantly shouting liar at Boris. I don't know what's worse, Ruth Davidson's nagging of "Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris,Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris,Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris,Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris,Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris," or her misquotations of the House of Commons library on the amount of laws created by the EU..
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You've personally checked the House of Commons library then to know she's misquoting?
 
bluethrunthru said:
Eh? So Leave may have a plan but they can't tell us coz its a secret and anyway if they win their plan won't happen?? Why vote Leave then?

Remain make their contingency plan known and because it doesn't promise sunny uplands in the event of Leave winning they are incompetent and have no credible plan?

Fingers in ears la la la la la time?
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Boris and Gove will no doubt have discussed what they'd do if one of them was PM, but whilst they aren't it wouldn't be right to air those discussions. You should vote to Leave because the EU is undemocratic. It may not be so bad at the moment (just a little overbearing), however the position of most power in Europe is not an elected role and I don't want the possibility of the wrong person being sat there. Plus, I think we're big boys and will be absolutely fine standing on our own two feet trading with the world.

Remain's contingency is not credible, as several of your much loved experts have stated.

Just common sense really and trying not to be told what to do by people who no doubt have vested interests and have absolutely nothing in common with me. I'm sure Richard Branson fully understands the negatives of freedom of movement from his beach on Necker Island.
 
lazerblue said:
dave says win or lose he will still be prime minister and will run the country accordingly so for you it should be win win
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Hardly - never voted Conservative in my life mate. Not my politics or party of choice. I'd rather see a change og Govt than just a change of PM
 
The quite derogatory nature of the 'debate' from the remain team I have found to be insulting. The whole plan from Osborne, Cameron et.al., has been scaremongering and Project Fear, which we all know, but the way they have gone about it tonight has been blatant and quite frankly I simply don't want to be bullied into thinking a certain way any longer.
 
CityStu said:
Boris can't outline his plan for what to do in the event of a Leave vote because, as it stands, he won't be in a position to enact that plan, which is exactly what you've said there.

I'd also expect any competent government to have a contingency plan in case they lose the referendum and frankly, Cameron and Osbourne's suggestion that they will raise taxes by 2p and further slash spending is absolutely ludicrous.
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Leaders lead. That's what they do. They have a plan and convince others to follow their plan. From Matin Luther to Martin Luther King leaders set out their manifesto and convince others to go with them on the journey. Their is no leadership in the Brexit campaign. There is no plan from the Brexit campaign. The Brexit campaign has no journey because it has no destination. It is a rudderless ship.

As any cheap self help cd will tell you - failing to plan is planning to fail. Brexit will fail.

Brexit will fail Britain.
 
papillon said:
At 8pm I was sat on the fence over the referendum. I have constant flitted between 'Leave' and 'Remain' for the past few months but finally this debate has made up my mind once and for all. I am 100% voting 'Leave' on Thursday.
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Good decision blue.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
1) No, it wouldn't. You can apply for a Visa which is easy. Just ask any American, Canadian, Australian, Chinese or Indian etc. student/migrant.
2) MILLIONS of EU jobs rely ENTIRELY on the UK being a member. It'd be tit-for-tat.
3) No, that's NATO. It's no coincidence that several EU members are also members of NATO and were before the EU existed. NATO has preserved peace. NATO.
4) We can then reject any regulations we don't agree with or, shock horror, if the deal isn't a good one we reject trading with the EU outright. It's a big world out there.
5) Our own government can do the same. If the public do not agree that the elected government is doing enough, we can vote in one that does reflect the nation public mindset.
6) Yes, and what a wonderful success that has been...
7) The farmers seem to disagree with that one. Most are voting leave.
8) Branson moved his Virgin HQ to Switzerland, Cadbury's moved factories to Poland, Tata Steel crisis, British Army armoured vehicles to be built in Spain using Swedish steel, yeah it's been great.
9) Nobody is calling for the UK to become isolated. Far from it, they want to see us trade with the world outside of a shrinking, stagnant trading bloc that requires debt payments just to keep the thing alive. Leave.EU isn't the official campaign, nor are we voting for Leave.EU or Vote Leave. We're voting on a decision.
8) How is it a problem? It doesn't go into detail.
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Well said
 
Monkfish said:
Wrong
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Why's it wrong? A Treasury Report estimates that there will be a 0.1% loss to GDP each quarter for 4 quarters, if we vote for out. Then the economy will return to growth (and bigger growth than whats happening elsewhere in the Eurozone).

To put it in perspective, in 2008 we lost 7% of GDP, due to a huge global crash. Also that 0.1% loss to GDP is a Treasury estimate based on the Government doing absolutely nothing to elevate this 12 month recession, and just sitting on their hands and doing nothing.

0.1% loss (per quarter over 12 months) to GDP isn't exactly anywhere near the apocolytic economic crash the remainers (especially EB2) were predicting further back in the thread, if we vote out.
 
blueish swede said:
Leaders lead. That's what they do. They have a plan and convince others to follow their plan. From Matin Luther to Martin Luther King leaders set out their manifesto and convince others to go with them on the journey. Their is no leadership in the Brexit campaign. There is no plan from the Brexit campaign. The Brexit campaign has no journey because it has no destination. It is a rudderless ship.

As any cheap self help cd will tell you - failing to plan is planning to fail. Brexit will fail.

Brexit will fail Britain.
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are you glenn hoddle
 
Ghandi's Flip Flops said:
Why's it wrong? A Treasury Report estimates that there will be a 0.1% loss to GDP each quarter for 4 quarters, if we vote for out. Then the economy will return to growth (and bigger growth than whats happening elsewhere in the Eurozone).

To put it in perspective, in 2008 we lost 7% of GDP, due to a huge global crash. Also that 0.1% loss to GDP is a Treasury estimate based on the Government doing absolutely nothing to elevate this 12 month recession, and just sitting on their hands and doing nothing.

0.1% loss (per quarter over 12 months) to GDP isn't exactly anywhere near the apocolytic economic crash the remainers (especially EB2) were predicting further back in the thread, if we vote out.
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Thank you.
 
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