John Stones

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YOU KNOW NOTHING JOHN STONES
 
£50 mill is a lot of money but at the same time we are seeing a window in which Troy deaney is above £30 mill. The simple fact is we are buying young English potential and in reality Utd paid £30 million for Rio back in 2002 so 45-50 now I'm not to fussed about because my opinion is John Stones is perfect for Pep and Manchester city and will become one of the very best in world football.
Fair point about Rio there matey. It'll never get mentioned in the press though. £30m with 14 years of inflation...£50m for and English lad of 23 don't seem to bad to me.
 
The price tag making him the most expensive defender + English player is some thing city clearly don't seem comfortable with and would put pressure on stones right way. English sports media is among the worst... And they will right on his case from the time he signs

Saying that Pep wants and even mourninho wanted him all of the last year
 
The price tag making him the most expensive defender + English player is some thing city clearly don't seem comfortable with and would put pressure on stones right way. English sports media is among the worst... And they will right on his case from the time he signs

Saying that Pep wants and even mourninho wanted him all of the last year
True but pressure will be high anytime you play for a big club. There will be pressure on the team straight away anyway so there will be no escaping
 
We'll be ok without him. If Everton manage to keep him, then fair play to them as they've turned down two successive £40m bids for the guy. Not so sure Stones will be happy, but that's not Everton's concern - he'll just have to get on with it.
 
We'll be ok without him. If Everton manage to keep him, then fair play to them as they've turned down two successive £40m bids for the guy. Not so sure Stones will be happy, but that's not Everton's concern - he'll just have to get on with it.

If he does get on with it. Is Everton's concern if his performance dips again, like last time.

As they've then turned down £40m for someone who isn't performing for them.

Doesn't always happen that they perform well. So they do have some risk
 
The Crankies could have won the league with what Pellers inherited... Pep is a planner thankfully and we no longer have to resort to the chicken bones any more to determine tactics...

bit unfair that, i thought Pellers had a vision as to how football should be played and for the most part he stuck to that view regardless of the opposition, city as a club knew that when we employed him. i for one enjoyed his stint here immensely. and now i'm enjoying Pep casting his spell. Mancini was different again and i loved his time too. only my opinion and sorry to reply here i just hate seeing the gentleman that was Pellers derided for sticking to his guns.
 
Whether we sign Stones or not, it seems clear to me that Pep is concerned about the CB position. Laporte and Stones have been our main targets since the transfer window opened. This wouldnt be the case if we were comfortable with what we have...The lack of signing a CB is not because we dont think its a big need....clearly with Laporte, Stones and Bonucci on our shopping list over the last few months, we VERY concerned. We just havent been able to close any of those deals (yet!) Pep alone doesnt guarantee winning the Prem. I think upgrading our back 4 could be the difference between 1st or 2nd in the prem at the end of the season....as yet, we've done nothing to improve a back 4 that let in more goals than at anytime in the last 5years....
 
I really want him and understand the reasoning from Pep.

I agree with our present stance, however, his value certainly hasn't shot up £10m over the last 12 months based on his overall showings, TV inflation or not.

The deal with Liverpool and Sterling last season made a rod for our own backs, it was an open secret he only wanted us and and he was a priority target - and it's the same with Stones.

The consensus from clubs is they can tough it out and we will eventually cave.

There will come a stage (not now) when if Everton continue to assert their prerogative that Stones is worth £50m, then I would prefer us to spend £50m on two quality additions in the left-back area and another central midfielder, sticking with what we have in the central defensive ranks and possibly promoting Tosin.

It would walk back a lot of the perceptions we created last season with Raheem and KDB and send a real message.

Stones is a really great talent, but you do have to draw a line in the sand.

As it is, I think we'll fudge the narrative and get it done for around £45m plus add-ons.
 
I really want him and understand the reasoning from Pep.

I agree with our present stance, however, his value certainly hasn't shot up £10m over the last 12 months based on his overall showings, TV inflation or not.

The deal with Liverpool and Sterling last season made a rod for our own backs, it was an open secret he only wanted us and and he was a priority target - and it's the same with Stones.

The consensus from clubs is they can tough it out and we will eventually cave.

There will come a stage (not now) when if Everton continue to assert their prerogative that Stones is worth £50m, then I would prefer us to spend £50m on two quality additions in the left-back area and another central midfielder, sticking with what we have in the central defensive ranks and possibly promoting Tosin.

It would walk back a lot of the perceptions we created last season with Raheem and KDB and send a real message.

Stones is a really great talent, but you do have to draw a line in the sand.

As it is, I think we'll fudge the narrative and get it done for around £45m plus add-ons.

You surprised we havent done more to improve the back 4 so far this transfer window? CB's/fullbacks proving harder to sign? cheers
 
I dont think we need Stones, and I dont think we should buy him. He isnt good enough and we need to learn from the Sterling thing.

Also, we are doing some quite tidy mid season buying, Utd are going for broke it seems with how much they are spending, let them do it instead of City. We dont need to, we have a great squad I believe, and noow we have Pep
 
I really want him and understand the reasoning from Pep.

I agree with our present stance, however, his value certainly hasn't shot up £10m over the last 12 months based on his overall showings, TV inflation or not.

The deal with Liverpool and Sterling last season made a rod for our own backs, it was an open secret he only wanted us and and he was a priority target - and it's the same with Stones.

The consensus from clubs is they can tough it out and we will eventually cave.

There will come a stage (not now) when if Everton continue to assert their prerogative that Stones is worth £50m, then I would prefer us to spend £50m on two quality additions in the left-back area and another central midfielder, sticking with what we have in the central defensive ranks and possibly promoting Tosin.

It would walk back a lot of the perceptions we created last season with Raheem and KDB and send a real message.

Stones is a really great talent, but you do have to draw a line in the sand.

As it is, I think we'll fudge the narrative and get it done for around £45m plus add-ons.

Any news on Bonucci?

Are we still in for him? I would honestly prefer him over Stones. Would walk into our starting line-up. World class defender and ideal Pep player. We could get maybe 4 high quality seasons from him and IMO would be worth whatever we pay plus youngsters such as Denayer and Tosin could grow tremendously with his help.
 
Any news on Bonucci?

Are we still in for him? I would honestly prefer him over Stones. Would walk into our starting line-up. World class defender and ideal Pep player. We could get maybe 4 high quality seasons from him and IMO would be worth whatever we pay plus youngsters such as Denayer and Tosin could grow tremendously with his help.


Thats reports were that he not for sale and back in training with Juve today...

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we'll sign him. The benefit of not being ripped off will come in future seasons when we've fixed this squad and only have to add 1 or 2 players because we want to.

If we don't sign him and walk away, he'll be a Chelsea or Rags player by the end of the window and we'll regret it for a decade.

It'll be done.
 
You surprised we havent done more to improve the back 4 so far this transfer window? CB's/fullbacks proving harder to sign? cheers

We don't have the wiggle room in the squad as it stands.

Older players aren't about to walk away in the sunset of their careers, away from big wages they won't get elsewhere, nor one of the biggest clubs in the world who challenge for the top trophies every season and compete in the Champions League.

It's a very long way down these days from City.

A lot of our older squad members are comfortable with their lot, their children are maybe at settled schools, like life in England, etc.

It's that comfortable virus which has infected both the club and the team in last two seasons.

It was the nature of how we conceded, last season (West Ham/Southampton away *shudders), rather than how often - think only five goals less than an ultra cautious United team, who had one of the best along with Spurs?

Perhaps Pep thinks if you don't play like pussies and concede four against Spurs, Liverpool and Southampton, then the swing back towards a serious title challenge is not as difficult as some would have you think - even with some of our Keystone Cops defenders under Pellegrini.

I don't like looking back, but Pellegrini's lack of tactical preparation was just truly horrible.
 
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