John Stones

[prof-taf]

Not worth anywhere near £50m.

In today's market, he is. Hopefully in 10 years he will be out rock

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

£50m is a lot for a player that's just above average. Pep should work with the CB's we have right now before making a decision on purchasing stones.

 

[nmc]

£50m is a lot for a player that's just above average. Pep should work with the CB's we have right now before making a decision on purchasing stones.

So how long will it take Pep to transform Mangala? Given time he might help him fulfill his potential but Mangala will never be a ball playing CB. This is not just about ability but the type of player to fit into a system .

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.

What we want and what the team needs may be different

The team is a jigsaw and Stones may be a piece we need

 

[domalino]

I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.

At Bayern, Pep had Boateng, Martinez, Benatia, Badstuber and Alaba who would all be considered ball playing cbs.

Mascherano is definitely a ball playing CB - he's pretty much the prototypical bal Plato g centreback because he was a very good midfielder before moving back, and the whole "ball playing CB" thing is about having your CBs being comfortable enough on the ball to push up into midfield, bring the ball out and play like midfielders.

And the only reason Godin, Pepe and Ramos aren't considered ball playing is because in Spain that level of ability on the ball for a centreback, being comfortable and passing it around is just standard.

 

[Cityfan]

I think this whole ball playing CB thing is over rated. None of Real or Atletico CB's are ball playing CB's. While Pep was at Bayern ,he only had one ball playing CB (Boateng), Ramos / Pepe aren't ball playing CB's but I bet we would all jump at the chance to sign either one of them. You can't just throw 50m on player just because he is "comfortable on the ball", besides you don't need ALL your CB's to be ball playing CB's, Mascherano isn't, Pique is. Pep can make it work with Mangala being the brute ramos/pepe type and Vinny the "ball playing" Pique type.

I think it depends on what you mean by ball playing, Pepe is really comfortable on the ball Ramos fairly comfortable and Mascherano very comfortable, they might not be play makers but compared with Mangala they are Glen Hoddle and Pirlo rolled into one. Quite a bit better than Ota as well I would say.

 

[Ashleymcduff]

Vinny is finished
Otemendi plays like a under 10 diving in at every opitunity
Mangala has mushy peas for a brain

Stones is needed desperately

 

[stony]

Barnsley have a sell on clause so if it's £50M, Everton only get £42M.

 

[BAB.DAB]

£50m with a percentage of that performance related is a good deal everton have new investment and ambitions we are in the champions league and also have high ambitions taking into account the new TV money and Chinese clubs paying over the odds for players £50m for a young England international is about right