Joey Barton

BluessinceHydeRoad said:
This is all getting ludicrously out of hand. It is ridiculous that a vicious thug who stubs cigarettes out on the face of a young colleague, perpetrates a murderous assault on a team mate, assaults a member of the public in an unprovoked and mindless attack, elbows Tevez in the face, attacks Sergio from behind and then tries to headbutt Vinnie should now be treated as some moral guardian and protector of the rights of professional footballers. Barton is in the same position as everyone else apart from Joe and Pep - they don't know what they're talking about. Joe has commendably said nothing and Pep has explained his decision in footballing terms. Not long ago everyone was after Joe - he was rubbish in the euros, he and Raheem were double handedly responsible for England's demise and he should be kicked out of the England team. Now he's a City icon and a national treasure, City are disgusting and Guardiola is a foreign megalomaniac. Thanks, Barton, but shut up. Joe is actually a City icon, we all feel for him, but Pep has a job to do and at the moment Joe doesn't fit the bill. That's what life can be like in a competitive, professional sport.
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Brilliant
Couldn't have said it better myself!
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
This is all getting ludicrously out of hand. It is ridiculous that a vicious thug who stubs cigarettes out on the face of a young colleague, perpetrates a murderous assault on a team mate, assaults a member of the public in an unprovoked and mindless attack, elbows Tevez in the face, attacks Sergio from behind and then tries to headbutt Vinnie should now be treated as some moral guardian and protector of the rights of professional footballers. Barton is in the same position as everyone else apart from Joe and Pep - they don't know what they're talking about. Joe has commendably said nothing and Pep has explained his decision in footballing terms. Not long ago everyone was after Joe - he was rubbish in the euros, he and Raheem were double handedly responsible for England's demise and he should be kicked out of the England team. Now he's a City icon and a national treasure, City are disgusting and Guardiola is a foreign megalomaniac. Thanks, Barton, but shut up. Joe is actually a City icon, we all feel for him, but Pep has a job to do and at the moment Joe doesn't fit the bill. That's what life can be like in a competitive, professional sport.
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Nail on the head. Any chance you could become a journalist?
 
I did have a chuckle about Barton lecturing people on standards of behaviour.

Sad thing is, he will have a long career ahead of him in the media. He is smart and savvy and pretty box office, as these things go. Not silly enough to overdo it on air it seems.

Shame.
 
moenchengladbach blau said:
It's going to be Zero to Hero in their eyes soon. The self same 'experts' seemed to have missed similar cocks ups by De Gea.

Sterling will be harder for them to change their tune but the way the two of them got stick certainly did not help England's cause in France.

I always hope for England players to do well playing for the country and would never dream of booing the cuntts from OT when playing for England as it does no good.

But what do I know - I am not a member of HM Press Corps or a pundit like Barton.

With Barton the midwife, seemsto have thrown away the baby and registered the afterbirth as Joseph Anthony Barton.
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I wasn't aware that his middle name is Anthony, so his initials are JAB, rather apt.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
This is all getting ludicrously out of hand. It is ridiculous that a vicious thug who stubs cigarettes out on the face of a young colleague, perpetrates a murderous assault on a team mate, assaults a member of the public in an unprovoked and mindless attack, elbows Tevez in the face, attacks Sergio from behind and then tries to headbutt Vinnie should now be treated as some moral guardian and protector of the rights of professional footballers. Barton is in the same position as everyone else apart from Joe and Pep - they don't know what they're talking about. Joe has commendably said nothing and Pep has explained his decision in footballing terms. Not long ago everyone was after Joe - he was rubbish in the euros, he and Raheem were double handedly responsible for England's demise and he should be kicked out of the England team. Now he's a City icon and a national treasure, City are disgusting and Guardiola is a foreign megalomaniac. Thanks, Barton, but shut up. Joe is actually a City icon, we all feel for him, but Pep has a job to do and at the moment Joe doesn't fit the bill. That's what life can be like in a competitive, professional sport.
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Well written Sir, its just what i wanted to say but could not put it as fine as you, thanks.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
This is all getting ludicrously out of hand. It is ridiculous that a vicious thug who stubs cigarettes out on the face of a young colleague, perpetrates a murderous assault on a team mate, assaults a member of the public in an unprovoked and mindless attack, elbows Tevez in the face, attacks Sergio from behind and then tries to headbutt Vinnie should now be treated as some moral guardian and protector of the rights of professional footballers. Barton is in the same position as everyone else apart from Joe and Pep - they don't know what they're talking about. Joe has commendably said nothing and Pep has explained his decision in footballing terms. Not long ago everyone was after Joe - he was rubbish in the euros, he and Raheem were double handedly responsible for England's demise and he should be kicked out of the England team. Now he's a City icon and a national treasure, City are disgusting and Guardiola is a foreign megalomaniac. Thanks, Barton, but shut up. Joe is actually a City icon, we all feel for him, but Pep has a job to do and at the moment Joe doesn't fit the bill. That's what life can be like in a competitive, professional sport.
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I don't see how joe has been treated badly. He's out of the side and no fucker is ever happy when that happens but he's not been slated or mistreated by the club or fans. Pep is being paid to do a job and if joe isn't part of his plans and can't give him special treatment because he's English which our media seems to think managers are obligated to do.
 
ono said:
Not that Joey knows anything about human decency but I see his point. As much as I love Pep, Hart has been a top class servant and truth be told he is only a couple of good performances away from the majority on here calling him 'world class' again. It's sad that he is seemingly being moved so quickly given plenty of other players don't appear suitable to play in a Pep team yet are being given the chance to adapt or at least show what they have. I could also understand it if an unreal keeper was coming in to replace him but I don't think that's the case, although I do think Bravo is a good keeper.
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Never considered Joe to be 'world class' he is a good keeper but with limitations. Pep has picked up on this and deemed it necessary to move him to one side. The same thing is happening to others Nasri, Yaya, Mangler and Bony because they have also been considered surplus to requirements. Excellent management imo as this timely removal of excess baggage greatly facilitates the introduction of a new way of operating.
 
slicky202 said:
I don't see how joe has been treated badly. He's out of the side and no fucker is ever happy when that happens but he's not been slated or mistreated by the club or fans. Pep is being paid to do a job and if joe isn't part of his plans and can't give him special treatment because he's English which our media seems to think managers are obligated to do.
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The thing that makes me laugh with this whole situation is the 'fake' outrage from media outlets and ex-professionals... the very same ones who were slagging him off big-time after his performances in the Euros!!!
 
dario2739 said:
The thing that makes me laugh with this whole situation is the 'fake' outrage from media outlets and ex-professionals... the very same ones who were slagging him off big-time after his performances in the Euros!!!
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Pathetic it is. So they slated him in the national team and said he wasn't good enough, pep agrees with these arseholes and drops him then there's outrage. If joe isn't going to play then we need to ship him out because nobody wants a sulking goal keep lingering around when pep is trying to build us a brilliant young team
 
Father Paul said:
Never considered Joe to be 'world class' he is a good keeper but with limitations. Pep has picked up on this and deemed it necessary to move him to one side. The same thing is happening to others Nasri, Yaya, Mangler and Bony because they have also been considered surplus to requirements. Excellent management imo as this timely removal of excess baggage greatly facilitates the introduction of a new way of operating.
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I'd assume you're in the minority on here then if you have never at one point considered Joe Hart to be world class....particular after some of the performances he has put in against the very best in the world.
 
ono said:
I'd assume you're in the minority on here then if you have never at one point considered Joe Hart to be world class....particular after some of the performances he has put in against the very best in the world.
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Average keepers can have good games. For Example; every average keeper we have ever played against.

On a serious note, I have always thought that he was top 15 goalkeeper in the world and one of the best in certain aspects. 1:1's & the willingness to put his body on the line. He never shied away from taking a rocket from point blank range. Not sure if it's skill or stupidity, but credit to him, he was one of the best in that aspect.
 
So -let's ignore Mr Bartons past. Clearly he is a knob. But in this case he expressed an opinion - probably related to the fact he is being paid to - let me think - oh yeah, express an opinion. And because it was negative to City's management he isn't allowed to have it? Maybe he should have said "I have no opinion on the subject however please can I get paid still for expressing no opinion?" that would have got the listeners ringing in to agree/disagree and the advertisers paying more as the listening figures continued to increase. In my opinion Pep is a muppet for playing Cab over Hart - even if he wants Hart out it makes more sense to play him until he finds a replacement. What if we draw cos of Cabs and at the end of the season lose the league by a point - great decision then. Unless he is trying to make a statement or indeed Joe is doing something behind the scenes we don't know. If it is a football decision then he clearly does not know a good goalkeeper from a bad one. Everyone had a blind spot - that would be his
 
edinburgh123 said:
So -let's ignore Mr Bartons past. Clearly he is a knob. But in this case he expressed an opinion - probably related to the fact he is being paid to - let me think - oh yeah, express an opinion. And because it was negative to City's management he isn't allowed to have it? Maybe he should have said "I have no opinion on the subject however please can I get paid still for expressing no opinion?" that would have got the listeners ringing in to agree/disagree and the advertisers paying more as the listening figures continued to increase. In my opinion Pep is a muppet for playing Cab over Hart - even if he wants Hart out it makes more sense to play him until he finds a replacement. What if we draw cos of Cabs and at the end of the season lose the league by a point - great decision then. Unless he is trying to make a statement or indeed Joe is doing something behind the scenes we don't know. If it is a football decision then he clearly does not know a good goalkeeper from a bad one. Everyone had a blind spot - that would be his
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The problem is more that Joey talks about human decency when he is anything but a decent human being himself
 
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edinburgh123 said:
So -let's ignore Mr Bartons past. Clearly he is a knob. But in this case he expressed an opinion - probably related to the fact he is being paid to - let me think - oh yeah, express an opinion. And because it was negative to City's management he isn't allowed to have it? Maybe he should have said "I have no opinion on the subject however please can I get paid still for expressing no opinion?" that would have got the listeners ringing in to agree/disagree and the advertisers paying more as the listening figures continued to increase. In my opinion Pep is a muppet for playing Cab over Hart - even if he wants Hart out it makes more sense to play him until he finds a replacement. What if we draw cos of Cabs and at the end of the season lose the league by a point - great decision then. Unless he is trying to make a statement or indeed Joe is doing something behind the scenes we don't know. If it is a football decision then he clearly does not know a good goalkeeper from a bad one. Everyone had a blind spot - that would be his
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Maybe the opinion he could have stated is that the club City was when he left was a club that put up up with his criminal behaviour until he informed them that he was going to a bigger club in Newcastle. He rewarded the club's loyalty by a criticism of the manager and the chairman in an interview on GMR which was little more than a carping whine and then left - to go to Tyneside via prison. He's now trying to continue his disgruntled vendetta because his timing was so awry and should have tried to conceal it by giving it in that pathetic French accent of his. His behaviour to this club (and most others) is disgraceful, he doesn't have a right to an opinion on Joe Hart or Pep Guardiola and any organisation which pays him to give one really does need medical help.
 
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