Our relationship with the Champions League

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fbloke said:
Absolutely not.

I think the format is bogus, the decisions made by UEFA are Stalinesque, the seeding is corrupt....
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Actually, to be fair, the move to the League Winner going automatically into pot 1, is a good and fair change.

Had we won the League last year, we would have been where Leicester are - we didn't.

See how well Leicester are going, in the big cup, being in Pot 1.
 
I posted in the match thread last night asking why we even bother when the refs are there to try and ensure a result rather be impartial and I stand by that.

It does, however, make it all the sweeter when we still get the result against the pride of UEFA.

Keep the booing going, it's excellent.
 
I really dislike the governing body but I love the competition. I think that's reflected by the atmosphere. We boo'd their anthem, but then got behind the team and really made ourselves the 12th man. If you could give me 1 trophy this season it would be big ears without a shadow of doubt.
 
nixmith2 said:
Actually, to be fair, the move to the League Winner going automatically into pot 1, is a good and fair change.

Had we won the League last year, we would have been where Leicester are - we didn't.

See how well Leicester are going, in the big cup, being in Pot 1.
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That was a good move. They were basically forced into making that change last year, but what did they immediately follow it up with? A move to allow historical success in the competition affect seeding. So if AC Milan were to qualify, they would be considered higher seeds on the grounds that a bunch of long since retired players won the competition decades ago.
 
I find the whole 'European Night' experience a little annoying tbh, from no beer, anthems, the Kick Racism out (ironic considering Uefa's stance) and all the razzmattaz that goes with it a pain in the arse.
However, last night just before we equalised i felt it all seemed to change, the players and the crowd suddenly didn't seem to be in awe of Barcelona for some reason, almost like a switch was flicked and we realised we're here on merit, we're as good as these guys and everything just seemed to click.
With Celtic to come at home and hopefully another great atmosphere with it, we can start embracing it and fullfil our potential in it.
There's still going to be issues with Uefa with the way we perceive the competition is run but hopefully last night was a major turning point.
 
Nope, we're the eternal underdogs, I want to win it our way, with the identity that makes this club so great, sticking it to the man..... We shift for no man, they shift for us, there's a reason we took home more £££ than any other club in the competition last year, including the winners, we are in a position of power and the popularity just grows....

Fuck UEFA, the corrupt ****s, even last night puskas's grandson was at it....
 
fbloke said:
Absolutely not.

I think the format is bogus, the decisions made by UEFA are Stalinesque, the seeding is corrupt and the favouritism shown by officials laughably clear.

Even if you ignore the treatment City have received from UEFA in terms of FFP and fines for racism/timekeeping many of the above concerns devalue the competition in my eyes.

Give me the old European Cup and I might find it more appealing.
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your best ever post on bluemoon.

on the money.

I only care about the prem and the fa cup. yes we still get shafted but they are too important to dismiss.
 
stonerblue said:
Almost as annoying as that god-awful dirge of an 'anthem'

As Zim so eloquently put it, fuck em, let's stick it to the man'.
Had to have a smile at our players laughing their socks off when the anthem was booed before ko
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

When I saw the players smiling it reminded me of old Voltaire for some reason (:
 
I wonder if last night may have impressed on people that we can actually hope to win the competition at some point. Perhaps before last night it was somehow a rags/dippers competition and that somehow influenced peoples view of it. Which ever way you look at it its the biggest club competition in the world and has been for many years. I have loved it and wanted to see City in it since the early 70s when Ajax won it three times on the spin.

Not liking it on account of UEFA doesnt make sense either in many respects, yes they are bent, yes they have had our pants down, and yes the whole organisation is infested with utter utter c----, despite Plantinis departure. At the end of the day the FA is no different, and nor are the powers that be in the Premier league. Not liking the custodians of these competitions is a seperate issue in my book, and have never understood those blues who trotted out lines about the Champions league not being as important as the Premier League, absolute nonsense frankly.
 
purplenose said:
I wonder if last night may have impressed on people that we can actually hope to win the competition at some point. Perhaps before last night it was somehow a rags/dippers competition and that somehow influenced peoples view of it. Which ever way you look at it its the biggest club competition in the world and has been for many years. I have loved it and wanted to see City in it since the early 70s when Ajax won it three times on the spin.

Not liking it on account of UEFA doesnt make sense either in many respects, yes they are bent, yes they have had our pants down, and yes the whole organisation is infested with utter utter c----, despite Plantinis departure. At the end of the day the FA is no different, and nor are the powers that be in the Premier league. Not liking the custodians of these competitions is a seperate issue in my book, and have never understood those blues who trotted out lines about the Champions league not being as important as the Premier League, absolute nonsense frankly.
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Why is it nonsense to value being the champions regularly in the prem more important than the corrupt CL?
 
City fans have always really irked me with this "I don't like the Champions League" opinion. It's certainly a minority, but it's always been there.

When you've watched the club struggle for decades at the same time as watching your rivals rise to the top of the game, it's ludicrously small-minded to not relish every game of the top level football.

Winning this is the final hurdle now for the club and our progress is fascinating, and brilliant to watch. And when we do it will feel like winning the league back in 2012, and I'm proud that I've witnessed every step of the evolution.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
City fans have always really irked me with this "I don't like the Champions League" opinion. It's certainly a minority, but it's always been there.

When you've watched the club struggle for decades at the same time as watching your rivals rise to the top of the game, it's ludicrously small-minded to not relish every game of the top level football.

Winning this is the final hurdle now for the club and our progress is fascinating, and brilliant to watch. And when we do it will feel like winning the league back in 2012, and I'm proud that I've witnessed every step of the evolution.
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ok quick question.

what would you rather win, this or the prem?

prem all day long for me.
 
I think some of us feel like the spotty unpopular kid at school who never gets invited to the cool parties. When you finally manage to gate crash the party you find your about as welcome as diahorrea on day 2 of your Ibiza holiday. We did love the competition but our love was unrequited. There is corruption at this sport at every level in FIFA and UEFA, this has been proven. It's naive to think that it doesn't exist when it comes to the draws and match officials. David Gill has been the Scum's player of the year for the past five years plotting in UEFA to keep Manchester United and the rest of the struggling G14 (both Milan clubs spring immediately to mind) in competitions they cannot qualify for on the pitch.

In short, I despise the bastards and would dearly love us to win the trophy just to piss them off.
 
Bill said:
ok quick question.

what would you rather win, this or the prem?

prem all day long for me.
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Are you kidding me, Bill? This by a mile! So would The Sheikh and so would Pep, because it would put the club at the top table forever, which would increase our fanbase, our revenue, our status, the players we could sign etc. This would lead to many many Premier League wins.

We will win plenty of premier leagues over the next 5 years but the Champions League is the holy grail now for the whole club. The final hurdle. And if anyone doubts that this very team will, under this manager and with this owner, they are not paying attention.
 
Not changed for me, id still rather the prem and the fa cup. The main reason i want to win the champs league is to rub their faces in it
 
karen7 said:
Why is it nonsense to value being the champions regularly in the prem more important than the corrupt CL?
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The Champions league/European Cup is the pinnacle of club football, you cannot win a bigger or prestige laden trophy. We want to be mentioned worldwide in the same breath as Barcelona, Real Madrid, and even the scum....have to win the Champions league to achieve that, and probably more than once. I agree it is corrupt, but come on Karen is it any more corrupt than the PL?

Winning the league is important, i dont say less important to us than the CL...though I suspect it may well be in the eyes of the club hierachy. It has to be at least on a level par for supporters at least. If i had a choice of finishing 4th this season but winning the CL or winning the Prem and losing in the semi of the CL i would take the CL in a flash, in the main because we havent won it...we have won the PL twice recently.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
City fans have always really irked me with this "I don't like the Champions League" opinion. It's certainly a minority, but it's always been there.

When you've watched the club struggle for decades at the same time as watching your rivals rise to the top of the game, it's ludicrously small-minded to not relish every game of the top level football.

Winning this is the final hurdle now for the club and our progress is fascinating, and brilliant to watch. And when we do it will feel like winning the league back in 2012, and I'm proud that I've witnessed every step of the evolution.
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Good post pal,winning the Champs league,despite the politics and bullshit that goes with it.....has to be our ultimate goal.When there is no greater club prize on offer,how can it not be?
 
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