Something to cheer you all up, Buck house facelift

It's best defined as a Landlord's tax deductible expense. The same as a buy to let landlord getting a tax deductible expense on capital expenditures such as rewiring and plumbing.
I suppose the only possible point of contention is that the monarchy gets 15% of crown estate profits. If profits are reduced by £37m per year due to this, does the monarchy's income go down by 15% of the £37m?
 
It's best defined as a Landlord's tax deductible expense. The same as a buy to let landlord getting a tax deductible expense on capital expenditures such as rewiring and plumbing.
I was thinking that. I'd imagine the amount that could be written off for depreciation / wear and tear must be pretty large.
I don't think of myself as a monarchist, but when the lwnj's bollock on as if the poor of the nation would be enriched by getting rid I think its a tad naive.
 
London will become this country's biggest financial asset over the next few decades. A huge part of its brand value arises from buildings like Buckingham Palace and other historical landmarks in our capital. Is there a city in the world with more globally iconic buildings and monuments than London? New York, Washington DC, maybe.

In practical terms, it's an absolute no-brainer.
 
I suppose the only possible point of contention is that the monarchy gets 15% of crown estate profits. If profits are reduced by £37m per year due to this, does the monarchy's income go down by 15% of the £37m?

If it does she best move the corgis onto pedigree chum, austerity and all of that jazz.

Leaving aside the crown estate, there is the matter of £1.4bn she alone brings into charities each year (Charlie is around £100m), there is all the tourist money as well, cant have her gaff looking shabby in front of Johnny Foreigner, it must be about 20 years since I went and it could have done with some work then, something the Americans we were with noted with the line "The white house is kept in a better state" bragging show offs that they were.
 
No it doesn't. It's a reduction in tax on the Crown Estate profits.

It's all Crown Estate money. Not a single tax payer's penny will go towards it.

You're not understanding this.
You're not understanding it mate.
A deal was done by the monarchy (George the third or whoever) that to settle his private debts and debts incurred by previous monarchs in foreign wars the profits from the crown estates would be paid to the Government. As part of this deal the Monarchy was also relieved of paying for the costs of the judiciary.
So the crown estates profits belong to the Government/ Taxpayer as part of this deal, NOT the monarch.
15 % of these profits were granted by the Government/Taxpayer to the Monarch to pay for things like repairs to the Palace.
Apparently we are told this 15% is not sufficient to pay for these repairs so the Sovereign is being given more funds from the Crown Estate i.e 22% of the crown profits.
It is up to the Monarch to manage the 15% grant to pay for repairs etc, not to come cap in hand to the Government and ask for more money.
Why not manage these funds better or get more revenue in by opening the palace more often to fee paying visitors.?
 
If it does she best move the corgis onto pedigree chum, austerity and all of that jazz.

Leaving aside the crown estate, there is the matter of £1.4bn she alone brings into charities each year (Charlie is around £100m), there is all the tourist money as well, cant have her gaff looking shabby in front of Johnny Foreigner, it must be about 20 years since I went and it could have done with some work then, something the Americans we were with noted with the line "The white house is kept in a better state" bragging show offs that they were.
Is that the same White House that was built by slaves?
 
You're not understanding it mate.
A deal was done by the monarchy (George the third or whoever) that to settle his private debts and debts incurred by previous monarchs in foreign wars the profits from the crown estates would be paid to the Government. As part of this deal the Monarchy was also relieved of paying for the costs of the judiciary.
So the crown estates profits belong to the Government/ Taxpayer as part of this deal, NOT the monarch.
15 % of these profits were granted by the Government/Taxpayer to the Monarch to pay for things like repairs to the Palace.
Apparently we are told this 15% is not sufficient to pay for these repairs so the Sovereign is being given more funds from the Crown Estate i.e 22% of the crown profits.
It is up to the Monarch to manage the 15% grant to pay for repairs etc, not to come cap in hand to the Government and ask for more money.
Why not manage these funds better or get more revenue in by opening the palace more often to fee paying visitors.?
Wrong again. The civil list is to pay for running the monarchy not for the upkeep of crown estate properties of which Buckingham Palace is one of many.
 
You're not understanding it mate.
A deal was done by the monarchy (George the third or whoever) that to settle his private debts and debts incurred by previous monarchs in foreign wars the profits from the crown estates would be paid to the Government. As part of this deal the Monarchy was also relieved of paying for the costs of the judiciary.
So the crown estates profits belong to the Government/ Taxpayer as part of this deal, NOT the monarch.
15 % of these profits were granted by the Government/Taxpayer to the Monarch to pay for things like repairs to the Palace.
Apparently we are told this 15% is not sufficient to pay for these repairs so the Sovereign is being given more funds from the Crown Estate i.e 22% of the crown profits.
It is up to the Monarch to manage the 15% grant to pay for repairs etc, not to come cap in hand to the Government and ask for more money.
Why not manage these funds better or get more revenue in by opening the palace more often to fee paying visitors.?
See all my previous posts in this thread.

Crown Estate is the landlord of the property.

Crown Estate is getting a reduction of tax it pays on its profits.

Crown Estate is self funding the work.

Dave Smith paying his £2,078 tax per year as a labourer is paying nothing towards to the upkeep.

The Civil List is not there to pay for the upkeep of Crown Estate properties.

If this was about Balmoral you'd have a point.
 
Exactly my point. Well found buddy.

It's not the taxpayers footing the bill but the Queen's Crown Estate ("the Crown Estate belongs to the reigning monarch")
"Belongs to" is a bit of a stretch. She can't sell it or profit from it and has no control over how it's run. People who bought a star on the internet have a similar experience of ownership.
 
London will become this country's biggest financial asset over the next few decades. A huge part of its brand value arises from buildings like Buckingham Palace and other historical landmarks in our capital. Is there a city in the world with more globally iconic buildings and monuments than London? New York, Washington DC, maybe.

In practical terms, it's an absolute no-brainer.

Bollocks.
Royal Palaces don't feature in the top 50 UK tourist attractions.
 
London will become this country's biggest financial asset over the next few decades. A huge part of its brand value arises from buildings like Buckingham Palace and other historical landmarks in our capital. Is there a city in the world with more globally iconic buildings and monuments than London? New York, Washington DC, maybe.

In practical terms, it's an absolute no-brainer.
I'd throw Amsterdam into that mix mate.
 
Buckingham Palace attracts half a million visitors per year and it has done for at least the past twenty years. At £40 per head that's 40x20x500000 = 400 Million.

Why do they need the money again?
Yeah, because I'm sure this is the only cost involved in running Buckingham Palace.

Just for comparison, the Palace of Versailles, which is in a far less convenient location, sees 3 million tourists come through its doors every year. Looks like Madame Guillotine has a lot to answer for.

Having said that, I wouldn't give a shit if this money was coming out of tax. In relative terms, this is fuck all and you don't throw away your national treasures because the country's going through a bit of a rough patch.
 
"Belongs to" is a bit of a stretch. She can't sell it or profit from it and has no control over how it's run. People who bought a star on the internet have a similar experience of ownership.
"Belongs to..." is from your quote from their website mate.

I only copy and pasted your post.

So if you thought it was a stretch you shouldn't have used it to try and make a point.
 

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