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Georgi Kinkladze
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franksinatra
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The agenda one?
There isn't an agenda, apparently.....
The force is strong in this one. Glad you have been listening.
Exeter Blue I am here
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I always regret I never went over to watch him. Met him once in a pub and waited outside the ground on 'Kinkladze day' (last game 96/97 season) to beg him to stay. He looked distraught at the thought of leaving and overwhelmed by the crowds reaction to him. Will always be a legend in my eyes.
Home to Reading wasn't it? He was a beacon of light in those stinking dark days and I will cherish the memory of some of his performances (Newcastle, Southend, Oxford, Leicester, to name a few) until my dying day. He had his faults but he was beautiful to watch
Brightwell’s left peg
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No better player?Without question he was a victim of circumstance. Sacking of the manager, Jari Litmanen issue, played out of position.
Undoubtedly he never fulfilled his potential but what a player to watch. There was no better player in the league 95/96 which is quite remarkable for a 20 year old plucked out of Georgia.
Anyway where is that video?
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Mate, I'm a blue through and through, and loved kinky. I even thought Hughes was genuinely better than Giggs, I have some strongly tinted blue specs, but come on...
gordondaviesmoustache
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Sometimes good players have a great couple of seasons; Lee Bowyer springs to mind. It doesn't make them great players.
Shaelumstash
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Ha ha you my friend know absolutely fuck all about football but don't worry you won't be on your own on this thread .
I know Silva played well against Hull away also
Whereas Kinkladze played well against the footballing giants of Oxford United away! Haha!
Loved watching Kinkladze play, he was the only thing worth turning up to watch at some points. Brilliant on his day and still the best dribbler I've ever seen for us.
But let's be realistic. He was the best player in a team that got relegated to the third division. This current team have won two league titles and got to a semi-final of the Champions League.
To compare him to today's players is a bit embarrassing for the lad, just remember the good memories, but don't ruin it.
mainemanc1066
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On his day Kinky for me but overall, yeah I would say Ali B.
Bernabia's debut was THE best debut I've ever seen from a blue
I was never the best at geography but I don't think Derby and Georgia are in the Greater Manchester area.
Hes hardly a household name even in deepest Georgia
Oh dear.......comedy is still alive and kicking- something which most of Gio's team mates at the time weren't often doing. Heart of a mouse!!! Ha ha - did you see the kickings he got every week once we left the PL yet came back for more? Sure he had some poor games, all players do, but he was a dribbling genius in a team that was largely dross and managed by Alan Ball, Phil Neal and the rest. It seems perplexing how people can't see what an exciting player he was. Oh and btw playing on left wing for Ajax is like putting Fernando there. Truth was they did not want him playing instead of Litmanen
This great, who featured in teams that were relegated twice in consecutive seasons.!
Hacked every week?, you obviously did not attend football matches in the 60's and 70's..... I watched Peter Barnes at 17 get kicked into touch every weekend and in the 1st minute of the game, he just got up and got on with it...players did in those days....Kinky was a tart and a waster...such a shame for City and the player himself
Tugay One Cup
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Hes hardly a household name even in deepest Georgia
Maybe she's only followed us since the takeover?
Saying he's unheard of outside of Manchester is a bit of a stretch. That's if we're even entertaining the idea that global recognition would be a decent way of measuring the talents of any player who played for us in those times.
I watched this guy play home and away for the whole of his City career, there were some good days, not many but there were a lot of days when he did not turn up.Maybe she's only followed us since the takeover?
Saying he's unheard of outside of Manchester is a bit of a stretch. That's if we're even entertaining the idea that global recognition would be a decent way of measuring the talents of any player who played for us in those times.
I wished Kinky would have put as much effort on a Saturday afternoon as he did with his late night/ early morning visits to casino's and Manchester's finest entertainment venues. He and Master Sumerbee were inseparable, much to the dismay of our Chainman at the time
As people have already stated, great players, are great players every season, great players don't go to sign for Ajax.
Great players win titles, Kinky was relegated twice.
Exeter Blue I am here
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I watched this guy play home and away for the whole of his City career, there were some good days, not many but there were a lot of days when he did not turn up.
I wished Kinky would have put as much effort on a Saturday afternoon as he did with his late night/ early morning visits to casino's and Manchester's finest entertainment venues. He and Master Sumerbee were inseparable, much to the dismay of our Chainman at the time
As people have already stated, great players, are great players every season, great players don't go to sign for Ajax.
Great players win titles, Kinky was relegated twice.
I'd classify David Silva as a great player, but if you'd plonked him in the 1997 City team I'm pretty sure we'd still have been relegated. Soundbites like that are meaningless without a bit of context
jimharri
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If a certain poster on here reads that, you'd better make sure your BUPA payments are up to date.I watched this guy play home and away for the whole of his City career, there were some good days, not many but there were a lot of days when he did not turn up.
I wished Kinky would have put as much effort on a Saturday afternoon as he did with his late night/ early morning visits to casino's and Manchester's finest entertainment venues. He and Master Sumerbee were inseparable, much to the dismay of our Chainman at the time
As people have already stated, great players, are great players every season, great players don't go to sign for Ajax.
Great players win titles, Kinky was relegated twice.
I'd classify David Silva as a great player, but if you'd plonked him in the 1997 City team I'm pretty sure we'd still have been relegated. Soundbites like that are meaningless without a bit of context
So would suggesting that David Silva or any other player of that quality would have ever considered signing for us in 1997.
Bernarbia and Berkovic in my opinion were far better players and although not at the club for long, were greater legends than Kinky ever was.
Exeter Blue I am here
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So would suggesting that David Silva or any other player of that quality would have ever considered signing for us in 1997.
Bernarbia and Berkovic in my opinion were far better players and although not at the club for long, were greater legends than Kinky ever was.
Kinkladze signed for us in 95 when we were in the Prem and there were plenty of other good players in the team at that point, but that aside, no, of course a player like Silva wouldn't have considered signing for us then. The point I'm making is that getting relegated and being a good player are not necessarily mutually exclusive. The club sold Quinn, Beagrie, Filtcroft, Curle, Lomas and Rosler during Kinky's time at the club and we had two terrible managers in Alan Ball and Frank Clark, and IMO that is a far more reliable indicator of why we found ourselves in League One than the perceived shortcomings of Georgi Kinkladze
shadygiz
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still one of my all time city players, if somewhat a flawed genius
flb
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I honestly believe if it was a fresh faced 20 year old Kinkladze walking through the doors at city today he would go on to be a true great.
I'm of the same opinion, he had everything to be a truly special player in the right team, he was extremely loyal to City when he could have left a lot earlier than he did , pace, balance , two footed , could pass the ball like Silva and he scored great goals.
He didn't have enough quality players around him- he became a one man team with the pressure of that on his shoulders .
HelloCity
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So would suggesting that David Silva or any other player of that quality would have ever considered signing for us in 1997.
Bernarbia and Berkovic in my opinion were far better players and although not at the club for long, were greater legends than Kinky ever was.
Benarbia had a good season in the Championship.