Anthony Taylor appointed ref for Chelsea

bluetev said:
Pretty much every city fan believes there is bias, in the way media reports on us vs other historee clubs, refereeing decisions in general (especially insidious minor things like allowing opponents to foul away while penalising city players at the first opportunity) or the whole ffp fiasco.

You don't believe it, fine.

What is pointless is haunting a thread like this and getting riled yourself, and annoying others.

I have seen that bastard mason run over the width of the pitch - actually run! - to yellow card dzeko for dissent.
Why? Because dzeko was fouled, and had the temerity to look towards him, hands outstretched, lip still bleeding from the elbow he had suffered.

We watch matches and read reports, and form our opinions based on what we see, not just blind devotion to city. Kindly don't come over and talk down to every fan here as if we are simpletons.
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I certainly do not think City fans are simpletons and as always a poster like Exeter Blue makes some excellent points and raises examples which are worthy of discussion. Hence I researched the Zabba incident.

The only point where I have been riled is when someone decides to state I was another poster previously. I just cannot fathom that.

You are quite correct maybe staying out of the thread would have been a good idea but sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you dont. But its a poor show if an alternative view cannot be stated within a thread.

As I have stated earlier personally I think football is too fast, too much simulation and too many camera angles to paint refs in a good light. Its an impossible task.

I have never been an advocate of video refereeing but the faith in the integrity of refereees is at an all time low, so if it could be implemented and cause minimal disruption to the game it could only be a good thing.
 
franksinatra said:
Another pointless contribution
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Pointless enough to illicit a response and quite a funny response coming from you. Have you ever considered that you may be a tad obsessed with trying to prove there is no bias/agenda when the majority on this forum do not share your obsession. This seems to be pretty pointless to me.
 
bluetev said:
Pretty much every city fan believes there is bias, in the way media reports on us vs other historee clubs, refereeing decisions in general (especially insidious minor things like allowing opponents to foul away while penalising city players at the first opportunity) or the whole ffp fiasco.

You don't believe it, fine.

What is pointless is haunting a thread like this and getting riled yourself, and annoying others.

I have seen that bastard mason run over the width of the pitch - actually run! - to yellow card dzeko for dissent.
Why? Because dzeko was fouled, and had the temerity to look towards him, hands outstretched, lip still bleeding from the elbow he had suffered.

We watch matches and read reports, and form our opinions based on what we see, not just blind devotion to city. Kindly don't come over and talk down to every fan here as if we are simpletons.
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Top post. The guy has been winding people up for years.
 
Does it really make any difference who it is? They're all equally capable of making mistakes and usually do. I will say I think East is one of the worst referees I've seen and I'm amazed he is still in a job.

Walton though was a cheat. Of that I have no doubt.
 
super_city_si said:
Does it really make any difference who it is? They're all equally capable of making mistakes and usually do. I will say I think East is one of the worst referees I've seen and I'm amazed he is still in a job.

Walton though was a cheat. Of that I have no doubt.
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Agree completely regarding Walton. It was a pleasure to see the back of him when he retired, one of the most inept 'professionals' I have ever witnessed, over a number of years.

Another choice of official by the F.A that has got me dreading the predictable display we will see this Saturday. Arguably the biggest fixture of the Premier League season so far and they appoint this dimwit. I agree with an earlier poster that there are worse refs out there, but Taylor's inconsistency and lack of letting the game flow have had me tear my hair out on several occasions. The only two refs I actually rate in this season's batch are Mike Dean and Michael Oliver, with the latter being very shy when it comes to making game changing decisions. Baffling that Dean is 4th official at our place on Saturday and been appointed for a pretty dull Boro v Hull on MNF instead. Another great piece of management from the F.A.
 
franksinatra said:
I have just watched the Zabba trip, repeatedly, and I could not say with certainty if it was a penalty or not. For a ref in real time that would be a near impossible decision.
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I agree. However, the day he makes a call like that in our favour in a game delicately poised, that's the day you'll convince me he isn't inherently biased. This is a man who was taken to the Swamp by his family on a regular basis as a kid and who passes himself off as an Altrincham fan so that he can be affiliated to the Cheshire FA and thus render himself eligible for games involving Lancashire FA clubs. He knows exactly what he is doing in that regard and as such he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near City and, even worse, United, no matter much integrity he personally regards himself as having
 
Great post above, those pesky 50-50's never go our way, strange but apparently it evens itself out over a season, well it would do if the officials were fair and I use the work fair rather than incompetent as if incompetent the decisions would indeed even out.
 
I have told previously by two different people who both know Taylor that he is indeed an Alti fan and one of them who is a blue has attended to games with him. Still not convinced though.
 
Eds said:
I have told previously by two different people who both know Taylor that he is indeed an Alti fan and one of them who is a blue has attended to games with him. Still not convinced though.
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It's bollocks mate, how many people from wythenshawe do you know who are altrincham fans? I know some that might pop over and watch them but none that actively support them. Rag from a family of rags, simple.
 
The fact that some posters on here are effectively saying that another poster should not air their views because they don't fit in with the majority view is bizarre and worrying.

Firstly, what is the point of a forum? The clue is in the name - a 'forum' for a person's view

Secondly, the minute you go down that route it becomes like a Trump rally - people winding each other up into a frenzy and throwing out people who aren't screaming 'lock her up' through their frothing lips. A myopic viewpoint that stifles debates and leads to closed minds.

Alternative viewpoints are healthy and necessary. Otherwise it's just a big circle jerk where no one learns anything.
 
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Abattoir Blue said:
The fact that some posters on here are effectively saying that another poster should not air their views because they don't fit in with the majority view is bizarre and worrying.

Firstly, what is the point of a forum? The clue is in the name - a 'forum' for a person's view

Secondly, the minute you go down that route it becomes like a Trump rally - people winding each other up into a frenzy and throwing out people who aren't screaming 'lock her up' through their frothing lips. A myopic viewpoint that stifles debates and leads to closed minds.

Alternative viewpoints are healthy and necessary. Otherwise it's just a big circle jerk where no one learns anything.
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Thanks for the post. In fairness to some of my adversaries I do have 'form' in this subject matter. For a long time now I have been debating whether there is a media agenda against the club and this topic is a spill over from that.

Some state this is acting as a Wum but I think like most people on a forum you are attracted to the discussions where alternative ideas are argued and your own perceptions are challenged. Hence like a moth to a flame you become artracted to similar types of threads.

I appreciate my view is in the minority but there seems a strain running through the forum that the refs, Fa, media,pundits, Men, sky, BT, BBC are all against us even the likes of Andy Hinchcliffe have had accusations thrown his way. It does not resonate with me in the same way it does with others, hence I debate the point.

With regards this thread the only examples of 'evidence' are those provided by Exeter Blue who readily concedes the penalty against leicester is open to interpretation. So personally I am happpy to give him the benefit of the doubt even though Its sods law I am setting myself up for a fall. It just seems too easy for me to throw accusations about some ones character and social media seems to lend itself to strong accusations not robustly supported.

Lets just hope gor a great game and a City win and more healthy debate in the coming weeks.
 
Abattoir Blue said:
The fact that some posters on here are effectively saying that another poster should not air their views because they don't fit in with the majority view is bizarre and worrying.

Firstly, what is the point of a forum? The clue is in the name - a 'forum' for a person's view

Secondly, the minute you go down that route it becomes like a Trump rally - people winding each other up into a frenzy and throwing out people who aren't screaming 'lock her up' through their frothing lips. A myopic viewpoint that stifles debates and leads to closed minds.

Alternative viewpoints are healthy and necessary. Otherwise it's just a big circle jerk where no one learns anything.
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They are like fuckin sheep mate agreeing with their mates post. Week in week fuckin out a Ref thread with the same fuckin faces making the same shit post. I've just had a nosey on a few other clubs forums and it's the same, in fact the Rags feel they are the most hard done by team anywhere, it's a full on agenda against them.
 
Well well well this thread has escalated,where are the "does not matter who the ref is blah blah blah" brigade now ?

I often put a thread up late Monday afternoon when we discover who the ref is for the upcoming game,and as I have said so many times in the past,it is a serious subject that does need discussing,and time for us to absorb what we will be up against on match day.

I am not condoning people to fall out with each other over it,it is me who falls out with people on here lol,but it is a very serious topic,that generally does warrant debate,Taylor does not worry me too much for this match v Chelsea to be honest,a worse candidate than him could have been chosen,the list in endless really,so I'm hoping,for a change,that this match will pass by with 3 points for us,and no mention after of a bad performance from the referee............................hope you are reading this Anthony......................you rag prick :)
 
Taylor, along with most of the refs are poor but as long as we don't see Rob Madley ever again in charge of a City game I will be more than happy.
 
Abattoir Blue said:
The fact that some posters on here are effectively saying that another poster should not air their views because they don't fit in with the majority view is bizarre and worrying.

Firstly, what is the point of a forum? The clue is in the name - a 'forum' for a person's view

Secondly, the minute you go down that route it becomes like a Trump rally - people winding each other up into a frenzy and throwing out people who aren't screaming 'lock her up' through their frothing lips. A myopic viewpoint that stifles debates and leads to closed minds.

Alternative viewpoints are healthy and necessary. Otherwise it's just a big circle jerk where no one learns anything.
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So in short you're saying that in your opinion other posters shouldn't be allowed to express their opinion about other posters expressing an opinion? Just leave the modding of the site to us.

The problem with the appointment of Taylor for a game involving us or the rags is that, whoever he does or doesn't support, Mike Riley shouldn't put his officials in a position where there could be seen to be a possible conflict of interest.

But when he came up to the Etihad to do his Q&A with Points of Blue in 2012, he made that point himself, when he was talking about refereeing appointments when he said "we try to avoid a conflict of interest wherever possible".

There were a few others on here who were there for that as well who'll confirm that was then pointed out to him that Lee Mason (who Riley had just told us was a Bolton fan) had just refereed a QPR game at the swamp when Bolton & QPR were both in a relegation fight so surely that was a conflict of interest. That had clearly never occurred to him.

The problem is that it's based on which FA County Association a ref is attached to. Around Manchester there's the Lancashire FA, the Manchester FA and the Cheshire FA. Taylor is attached to the Cheshire FA which means he can officiate at both Manchester clubs, who belong to the Manchester FA. If we had a Gtr Manchester FA in the same way they have a Merseyside FA, neither Mason nor Taylor would be able to referee us or the rags.

Mike Dean is supposedly a Tranmere fan and lives on The Wirral, which is part of the Cheshire FA but he won't referee Liverpool or Everton games, which I understand was his choice. That's right in my view and Riley is wrong to assign Taylor to games involving the Manchester clubs.
 
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