Anthony Taylor appointed ref for Chelsea

I am hoping a form of reverse psychology might come into play.

Wasn't he the subject of 'comments' from the moaning one recently ahead of the game at red scouse - suggesting that Taylor may feel the need to show that he is not a scum fan.

Perhaps this could be Taylor's opportunity to further show that he is not a scum fan by receiving criticism post-match for having been favourable towards us....

Well - I won't hold my breath, but after all it is the season to believe in fictional stuff............
 
The main problem I see is not the existence of these Referee for ... threads, its the fact that there is not a single appointment which isn't met with an "oh for fucks sake" "bent bastard" "fucking incompetent" response. Frank makes a fair point in that the level of scrutiny on referreing decisions only serves to highlight these opinions but there are some pretty reasonable refs out there and for the record, rag or not Taylor IMO is one of the better refs out there.
 
Taylor was the fourth official who dobbed Mourinho in to Jon Moss for his dismissal on Sunday,good lad on this occasion.
 
Abattoir Blue said:
The fact that some posters on here are effectively saying that another poster should not air their views because they don't fit in with the majority view is bizarre and worrying.

Firstly, what is the point of a forum? The clue is in the name - a 'forum' for a person's view

Secondly, the minute you go down that route it becomes like a Trump rally - people winding each other up into a frenzy and throwing out people who aren't screaming 'lock her up' through their frothing lips. A myopic viewpoint that stifles debates and leads to closed minds.

Alternative viewpoints are healthy and necessary. Otherwise it's just a big circle jerk where no one learns anything.
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Hi frank.

:)
 
bluetev said:
Pretty much every city fan believes there is bias, in the way media reports on us vs other historee clubs, refereeing decisions in general (especially insidious minor things like allowing opponents to foul away while penalising city players at the first opportunity) or the whole ffp fiasco.

You don't believe it, fine.

What is pointless is haunting a thread like this and getting riled yourself, and annoying others.

I have seen that bastard mason run over the width of the pitch - actually run! - to yellow card dzeko for dissent.
Why? Because dzeko was fouled, and had the temerity to look towards him, hands outstretched, lip still bleeding from the elbow he had suffered.

We watch matches and read reports, and form our opinions based on what we see, not just blind devotion to city. Kindly don't come over and talk down to every fan here as if we are simpletons.
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On the money!
 
In the current set up, ref's are on a hiding to nothing. They are damned because they don't come out and explain their actions, but if they ever did hold their hands up and come out and say they made a mistake, I can easily see clubs pushing for a rematch or wanting the result nullified; too much money at stake in the modern game.

The only solution I can see is give each team a couple of reviews for bookings (yellow & red) or penalties (for and against) only. It gets difficult for goals against as both attackers and defenders play to the whistle, and if the flag goes up for offside, play is usually stopped before the ball is put in the net. Only 1 review per team per half. Manager to decide when it is used. Any ref that gets overturned regularly should be reprimanded. It will add 2 minutes to each half at most. That's a lot less than your average Fergie time.
 
On a serious note, I don't think a ref from Greater Manchester should referee either Manchester team.

I know someone who knows Taylor who scoffed at the suggestion that he was a red - "he's just not like that", apparently - but this type of situation could be easily avoided. There is a large pool of refs, after all.
 
Ric said:
On a serious note, I don't think a ref from Greater Manchester should referee either Manchester team.

I know someone who knows Taylor who scoffed at the suggestion that he was a red - "he's just not like that", apparently - but this type of situation could be easily avoided. There is a large pool of refs, after all.
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https://www.premierleague.com/referees/index

Only 18 "Select" Refs. But still could be done as per your suggestion that I fully agree with.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
So in short you're saying that in your opinion other posters shouldn't be allowed to express their opinion about other posters expressing an opinion? Just leave the modding of the site to us.

The problem with the appointment of Taylor for a game involving us or the rags is that, whoever he does or doesn't support, Mike Riley shouldn't put his officials in a position where there could be seen to be a possible conflict of interest.

But when he came up to the Etihad to do his Q&A with Points of Blue in 2012, he made that point himself, when he was talking about refereeing appointments when he said "we try to avoid a conflict of interest wherever possible".

There were a few others on here who were there for that as well who'll confirm that was then pointed out to him that Lee Mason (who Riley had just told us was a Bolton fan) had just refereed a QPR game at the swamp when Bolton & QPR were both in a relegation fight so surely that was a conflict of interest. That had clearly never occurred to him.

The problem is that it's based on which FA County Association a ref is attached to. Around Manchester there's the Lancashire FA, the Manchester FA and the Cheshire FA. Taylor is attached to the Cheshire FA which means he can officiate at both Manchester clubs, who belong to the Manchester FA. If we had a Gtr Manchester FA in the same way they have a Merseyside FA, neither Mason nor Taylor would be able to referee us or the rags.

Mike Dean is supposedly a Tranmere fan and lives on The Wirral, which is part of the Cheshire FA but he won't referee Liverpool or Everton games, which I understand was his choice. That's right in my view and Riley is wrong to assign Taylor to games involving the Manchester clubs.
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I'm not talking about Taylor. My post was nothing to do with any specific referee, nor did I post an opinion about whether I feel we are on the receiving end from refs or not. I did not say people who had the view that there is a conspiracy against us were wrong, or eejits.

What I said is - while it is within your right to tell people to STFU and get off threads, doing so just because someone else holds a contrary position is against the spirit of a forum and leads to mob think rather than debate.

For the record I do think there is a conflict of interest in Taylor being the ref as he is from the area. That isn't a judgement one way or the other about his ability or any possible bias.
 
Ric said:
On a serious note, I don't think a ref from Greater Manchester should referee either Manchester team.

I know someone who knows Taylor who scoffed at the suggestion that he was a red - "he's just not like that", apparently - but this type of situation could be easily avoided. There is a large pool of refs, after all.
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Yep , I have heard that too.
Altrincham grammar school , Alty fan I am told.
 
Ric said:
On a serious note, I don't think a ref from Greater Manchester should referee either Manchester team.

I know someone who knows Taylor who scoffed at the suggestion that he was a red - "he's just not like that", apparently - but this type of situation could be easily avoided. There is a large pool of refs, after all.
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Is the correct answer, but the problem is that so many of the other refs are so bad that the Alti kid is a better appointment than we could have got
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
There were a few others on here who were there for that as well who'll confirm that was then pointed out to him that Lee Mason (who Riley had just told us was a Bolton fan) had just refereed a QPR game at the swamp when Bolton & QPR were both in a relegation fight so surely that was a conflict of interest. That had clearly never occurred to him.

The problem is that it's based on which FA County Association a ref is attached to. Around Manchester there's the Lancashire FA, the Manchester FA and the Cheshire FA. Taylor is attached to the Cheshire FA which means he can officiate at both Manchester clubs, who belong to the Manchester FA. If we had a Gtr Manchester FA in the same way they have a Merseyside FA, neither Mason nor Taylor would be able to referee us or the rags.

Mike Dean is supposedly a Tranmere fan and lives on The Wirral, which is part of the Cheshire FA but he won't referee Liverpool or Everton games, which I understand was his choice. That's right in my view and Riley is wrong to assign Taylor to games involving the Manchester clubs.
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The problem with that logic is, where do you draw the line? If you accept that the title is between the current top 6 it is rare that more than two are playing each other and often none are playing each other. If he's a rag (and you accept they're still in it) that could be six games he's not allowed to do. If you then move to teams that might finish in European places, it could be 8 games in a week he's banned from. If there was a greater Manchester association and Blackburn, Bolton, City, Utd, Wigan and Oldham were all in the PL, he's out of a job!
The truth is, no referees means no football. Personally, I don't care who he supports (or doesn't) as long as he is honest during games.
 
He is most definately a rag fan as I was once running the line in a NWCFL game a few years back and both him and the ref were from Wythenshawe and both rag fans .As an aside to that game the ref turned up in his best suit n tie but forgot to put his shoes on and was still in his slippers :)
 
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