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Taximania said:
I somewhat agree with you Argyle but we have been attacked many times and what can happen here can so easily be carried out across the pond.
A fine line between common decency freedom of movement and homeland security.
Where does one draw the line in these dangerous times.

I don't need an alarm because I have never been burgled. ?
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When were we ( as in uk mainland ) attacked by foreign terrorists?
 
Taximania said:
I somewhat agree with you Argyle but we have been attacked many times and what can happen here can so easily be carried out across the pond.
A fine line between common decency freedom of movement and homeland security.
Where does one draw the line in these dangerous times.

I don't need an alarm because I have never been burgled. ?
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Based on we've been attacked many times, I presume he's banned the Irish?
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
By Islamic terrorists? Other than the 7/7 attack, give me a list
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Why other than the 7/7 attack Uncle Wally.
Does that not count because you decide it doesn't.
Many will disagree with you.

However as I said the phrase "many times" here is a quick list mon amie.


2005 7 July: 7/7 central London bombings conducted by four separate Islamist extremist suicide bombers, which targeted civilians using the public transport system during the morning rush hour. Three bombs were detonated on three separate trains on the London Underground and one on a double-decker bus. 56 people were killed and 700 were injured. It was the UK's worst terrorist incident since the 1988 Lockerbie bombing and the first Islamist suicide attack in the country.

2007 January–February: Miles Cooper letter bomb campaign.

2007 30 June: Glasgow International Airport attack perpetrated by Islamist extremists.

2008 22 May: Exeter attempted bombing in a café toilet by an Islamist extremist, injuring only the perpetrator.

22 May 2013: A British soldier, Lee Rigby, was murdered in an attack in Woolwich by Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, two Islamist extremists armed with a handgun and a number of bladed implements. Both men were sentenced to life imprisonment, with Adebolajo given a whole life order and Adebowale ordered to serve at least 45 years.

5 December 2015: Three people are stabbed at Leytonstone tube station in east London, with one person suffering severe knife injuries; police subsequently announced that they were treating the stabbings as a 'terrorist incident'.Video footage emerged following the stabbing of the attacker repeatedly shouting "this is for Syria", in reference to the Royal Air Force's bombing of the Islamic State in Syria, which had commenced on 3 December after parliamentary approval.

Prevented, failed or aborted attacks which matter greatly and were prevented by our glorious homeland security forces
These are attacks which could have constituted a threat to life had they worked or been large enough.
Does not include attacks that were merely at a talking stage and were not actually in operation.

2006 28 September: Talbot Street bomb-making haul.
2007 1 February: Plot to behead a British Muslim soldier.
2007 29 June: London car bombs.
2008 27 February: British police thwarted a suspected plot to kill Abdullah of Saudi Arabia during a state visit to Britain in the year 2007 a senior officer said.
2009 3 September : Manchester Piccadilly multiple suicide bomber plot.In 2009 Pakistani national Abid Naseer, was one of 12 suspects arrested on suspicion of being part of a Manchester Terror cell, after arriving in the UK a year before. All were released on insufficient evidence, but ordered to be deported from the UK. Naseer's deportation to Pakistan was prevented on human rights grounds, as he was ruled 'likely to be mistreated'. In 2013, on further evidence from Al-Queda sources, including documents from the bin Laden Raid, he was extradited to the US, and on 4 March 2015 was found guilty of masterminding an Al-Queda directed plot to synchronize multiple suicide bombings around Manchesters Arndale Centre and Piccadilly Shopping centre in a coordinated attack involving other locations including the New York Subway with other cells.
2012 June: Five extremists plotted to bomb an English Defence League rally in Dewsbury but arrived late and were arrested when returning to Birmingham. A sixth was also convicted.
2013 April: As part of Operation Pitsford 11 Muslim extremists are jailed for a plotting terror attack involving suicide Bombers.
2015 12 Feb : Liverpool Ricin Plot: Mohammed Ammar Ali, an I.T. worker who rented a flat in Liverpool as a base of operations, attempted to buy 500 mg of Ricin, which could kill as many as 1,400 people, using the darkweb. He was instead delivered a white powder by the FBI. Evidence was also found of attempts to purchase rabbits or chinchillas to test the poison out on.
2015 7 July : Attempted anniversary London 7/7 bomb plot. Mohammed Rehman and Sana Ahmed Khan were found guilty of possession of 10 kg of Urea Nitrate. Rehman called himself the 'silent bomber' and asked his Twitter followers to choose between the Westfield Shopping Centre or the London Underground for the planned suicide bomb.


Since the London bombings of a decade ago, Britain has managed to avoid such a mass attack. But statistics show it has been a close-run thing.
Forty terrorist plots have been disrupted since 2005 - including seven in the past 18 months.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-seven-terror-attacks-in-just-six-months.html


We live in dangerous times Uncle truly we do.
 
smudgedj said:
It's top trolling from Trump this.

The limiting Visa programme is an Obama policy https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program
And the suspending visa approval countries are also from countries selected by Obama https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1187
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He can't win this. Either he's doing what Obama did and there was no point his doing it (I am strong by copying Obama) or it's entirely new restrictions and is going to the Supreme Court.
 
Magicpole said:
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I'm calling bullshit on that. No way would Peter Griffin say 'your mother and I'.
 
Obama stopped processing new Visas. He didn't stop people who already had them from entering, which is partly what has led to chaos and panic. It also went through all the relevant departments in an orderly fashion, whereas this time several departments implicated didn't find out until it was already happening.
 
Taximania said:
Why other than the 7/7 attack Uncle Wally.
Does that not count because you decide it doesn't.
Many will disagree with you.

However as I said the phrase "many times" here is a quick list mon amie.


2005 7 July: 7/7 central London bombings conducted by four separate Islamist extremist suicide bombers, which targeted civilians using the public transport system during the morning rush hour. Three bombs were detonated on three separate trains on the London Underground and one on a double-decker bus. 56 people were killed and 700 were injured. It was the UK's worst terrorist incident since the 1988 Lockerbie bombing and the first Islamist suicide attack in the country.

2007 January–February: Miles Cooper letter bomb campaign.

2007 30 June: Glasgow International Airport attack perpetrated by Islamist extremists.

2008 22 May: Exeter attempted bombing in a café toilet by an Islamist extremist, injuring only the perpetrator.

22 May 2013: A British soldier, Lee Rigby, was murdered in an attack in Woolwich by Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale, two Islamist extremists armed with a handgun and a number of bladed implements. Both men were sentenced to life imprisonment, with Adebolajo given a whole life order and Adebowale ordered to serve at least 45 years.

5 December 2015: Three people are stabbed at Leytonstone tube station in east London, with one person suffering severe knife injuries; police subsequently announced that they were treating the stabbings as a 'terrorist incident'.Video footage emerged following the stabbing of the attacker repeatedly shouting "this is for Syria", in reference to the Royal Air Force's bombing of the Islamic State in Syria, which had commenced on 3 December after parliamentary approval.

Prevented, failed or aborted attacks which matter greatly and were prevented by our glorious homeland security forces
These are attacks which could have constituted a threat to life had they worked or been large enough.
Does not include attacks that were merely at a talking stage and were not actually in operation.

2006 28 September: Talbot Street bomb-making haul.
2007 1 February: Plot to behead a British Muslim soldier.
2007 29 June: London car bombs.
2008 27 February: British police thwarted a suspected plot to kill Abdullah of Saudi Arabia during a state visit to Britain in the year 2007 a senior officer said.
2009 3 September : Manchester Piccadilly multiple suicide bomber plot.In 2009 Pakistani national Abid Naseer, was one of 12 suspects arrested on suspicion of being part of a Manchester Terror cell, after arriving in the UK a year before. All were released on insufficient evidence, but ordered to be deported from the UK. Naseer's deportation to Pakistan was prevented on human rights grounds, as he was ruled 'likely to be mistreated'. In 2013, on further evidence from Al-Queda sources, including documents from the bin Laden Raid, he was extradited to the US, and on 4 March 2015 was found guilty of masterminding an Al-Queda directed plot to synchronize multiple suicide bombings around Manchesters Arndale Centre and Piccadilly Shopping centre in a coordinated attack involving other locations including the New York Subway with other cells.
2012 June: Five extremists plotted to bomb an English Defence League rally in Dewsbury but arrived late and were arrested when returning to Birmingham. A sixth was also convicted.
2013 April: As part of Operation Pitsford 11 Muslim extremists are jailed for a plotting terror attack involving suicide Bombers.
2015 12 Feb : Liverpool Ricin Plot: Mohammed Ammar Ali, an I.T. worker who rented a flat in Liverpool as a base of operations, attempted to buy 500 mg of Ricin, which could kill as many as 1,400 people, using the darkweb. He was instead delivered a white powder by the FBI. Evidence was also found of attempts to purchase rabbits or chinchillas to test the poison out on.
2015 7 July : Attempted anniversary London 7/7 bomb plot. Mohammed Rehman and Sana Ahmed Khan were found guilty of possession of 10 kg of Urea Nitrate. Rehman called himself the 'silent bomber' and asked his Twitter followers to choose between the Westfield Shopping Centre or the London Underground for the planned suicide bomb.


Since the London bombings of a decade ago, Britain has managed to avoid such a mass attack. But statistics show it has been a close-run thing.
Forty terrorist plots have been disrupted since 2005 - including seven in the past 18 months.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-seven-terror-attacks-in-just-six-months.html


We live in dangerous times Uncle truly we do.
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312 died falling down stairs last year.

Ban any home that isn't a bungalow.
 
Taximania said:
Good evening Mr Grunge
I have listed for your kind perusal.
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Out of all of those how many would have been stopped by blocking immigration from the countries the states has?

Glasgow airport one was Indian, and the Syrian kid who did the stabbings was sectioned under the mental health act so hardly a terrorist. All the others while mostly Islamic reasoning were domestic.
 
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