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No fuck it.
I will get a bollocking at my posting meet tomorrow but frankly damn I don't give a deer.
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I know that's what we are told to think and I hear that point regularly. The only problem is when I ask why and delve a little deeper the people who say how vile he is can't back it up. I'm afraid "you must be crazy, he's clearly vile" isn't an argument.

"What we are told to think?" It's what's written and said. Up to you if you read it or not. Up to you if you believe it or not.

If you don't want to hear it from our mouths, do your own research. There are a tonne of articles by his biographers. Theres loads on Steve Bannon.
 
He didn't say he sexually assaulted women. It was locker room talk, bravado, male bullshit. Are you telling me that years ago you haven't said something about the opposite sex that you said because of the company you were in, and the circumstances and the situation, that perhaps wasn't totally appropriate? In fact don't tell me. I'm sick to death of all of these "new" men who have suddenly crawled out of the woodwork who are far too respectful and too politically correct to ever say anything they didn't really mean and later regretted.
Looks like you've been told what to think by Trump's Twitter feed and Breitbart. Think for yourself for a change and try believing your own eyes and ears.
 
He didn't say he sexually assaulted women.

Yes he did. What he bragged about doing was sexual assault.

Either he's lying to show off because he feels the need to show off (and thinks bragging about sexual assault is the way to impress a tv presenter) or he's telling the truth.
 
Looks like you've been told what to think by Trump's Twitter feed and Breitbart. Think for yourself for a change and try believing your own eyes and ears.

What do you think about Trumps first week?

Let me guess.....

You think building a barrier to restrict illegal immigration and drugs trafficking is a bad thing?
You think cancelling TTP and the race to the bottom for manufacturing costs to the benefit of the corporations and the cost of the American workers is a bad thing?
You think sitting down and telling companies in no uncertain terms that if they want to ship American jobs overseas it will cost them dearly is a bad thing?
You think wanting to have sensible peaceful relations with Russia and it's armoury of nuclear weapons is a bad thing?
You think wanting a free trade deal that allows the UK access to the $18 trillion American market is a bad thing?
You think not allowing America to make the same mistakes made by Germany and Sweden with unfettered immigration is a bad thing?
 
No fuck it.
I will get a bollocking at my posting meet tomorrow but frankly damn I don't give a deer.
I have included their flags for your kind perusals.




I'm not sure why you're persisting with this line, it's been explained that you can criticise Trump without endorsing every action of every government in the world.

You're dodging the issue with a smokescreen, and it's pathetic really.
 
I'm not sure why you're persisting with this line, it's been explained that you can criticise Trump without endorsing every action of every government in the world.

You're dodging the issue with a smokescreen, and it's pathetic really.

You my friend are dodging the issue with smoke screens
And quite frankly it's pathetic really.

Sixteen middle eastern countries ban a country and the silence is deafening.
One western country has a three month ban and you soil your trews ?
I shall leave you to debate your I hate Donald thread in peace and love.
Adios
 
He didn't say he sexually assaulted women. It was locker room talk, bravado, male bullshit. Are you telling me that years ago you haven't said something about the opposite sex that you said because of the company you were in, and the circumstances and the situation, that perhaps wasn't totally appropriate? In fact don't tell me. I'm sick to death of all of these "new" men who have suddenly crawled out of the woodwork who are far too respectful and too politically correct to ever say anything they didn't really mean and later regretted.

Seriously? You're still trying to defend this?

He bragged he could grab a woman by the pussy and they could do nothing to stop him.

If you think that's fine, what's wrong with you?
 
You my friend are dodging the issue with smoke screens
And quite frankly it's pathetic really.

Sixteen countries ban a country and the silence is deafening.
One western country has a three month ban and you soil your trews ?
I shall leave you to debate your I hate Donald thread in peace and love.
Adios

We disagree with both, the fact Trump has brought the United States down to the level of Brunei, Sudan and Yemen should worry you.
 
What do you think about Trumps first week?
Let's forget about your guesses as you really haven't got a clue about my views.

As for his first week, it was entirely predictable. He told lots of lies about crowd sizes and illegal votes whilst accusing the press of writing fake news without any evidence. He issued a series of ill thought out executive orders to impress his supporters, most of which he will be unable to implement either due to the legality of them or due to the fact that they will need an inordinate amount of funding that won't be approved by congress.

Basically he made a tit of himself which impressed his gullible supporters like you.
 
Interesting that of Trumps 3 marriages 2 of them were born overseas.
First one is Czech born and his current wife is from Slovenia.

I wonder if his marriage experiences have formed his Presidential decisions regarding visas etc..
 
You think building a barrier to restrict illegal immigration and drugs trafficking is a bad thing?
You think cancelling TTP and the race to the bottom for manufacturing costs to the benefit of the corporations and the cost of the American workers is a bad thing?
You think sitting down and telling companies in no uncertain terms that if they want to ship American jobs overseas it will cost them dearly is a bad thing?
You think wanting to have sensible peaceful relations with Russia and it's armoury of nuclear weapons is a bad thing?
You think wanting a free trade deal that allows the UK access to the $18 trillion American market is a bad thing?
You think not allowing America to make the same mistakes made by Germany and Sweden with unfettered immigration is a bad thing?

Just curious?

Sigh. You aren't "curious", you are trolling. There're are enough straw men in that post to build the first house of the three little pigs.

You assume there are no negative consequences and no reactions from those negatively impacted by any of those agenda items. You haven't thought it through, and neither have I. More important, neither has my President, or he doesn't care about those consequences, and THAT'S the problem.

His entire history as a business person -- which is what I know -- shows a grand plan, followed by a long string of failed ventures, stiffed banks, utter self-interest, zero charity and fucked-over "partners". Do I therefore believe that that's what his Presidency will also show when examined in its entirety?

Yes.
 
Sigh. You aren't "curious", you are trolling. There're are enough straw men in that post to build the first house of the three little pigs.

You assume there are no negative consequences and no reactions from those negatively impacted by any of those agenda items. You haven't thought it through, and neither have I. More important, neither has my President, or he doesn't care about those consequences, and THAT'S the problem.

His entire history as a business person -- which is what I know -- shows a grand plan, followed by a long string of failed ventures, stiffed banks, utter self-interest, zero charity and fucked-over "partners". Do I therefore believe that that's what his Presidency will also show when examined in its entirety?

Yes.
You've put it better than I could
 
Next we'll be hearing how we can't complain about Trump's new hard labour camps because North Korea has them too!

His new policy on exectution via stoning is totally cool because it happens in Saudi Arabia.
 
Are these the embassy's you'll be protesting outside of tomorrow?

No point they wont listen ; )
Dialogues a no no with most of them.
If you need to drive home a sound argument then the Moon is where it's at.
Good night Mr Argyle and sleep tight.

Please don't enter into any more conversation with me this hallowed eve .
As much as I love you I now have to take of my leave.
And so once more adios ..And up yours Trump !
 
Seriously? You're still trying to defend this?

He bragged he could grab a woman by the pussy and they could do nothing to stop him.

If you think that's fine, what's wrong with you?

I'm not saying it's fine. I'm saying he's human as we all are, and he said something 20 years ago in a certain situation, that he has since apologised for. My point is that we have all said something especially among friends that were not factually correct and we later regretted.
 
I honestly dont knw what to make of him, every time he does or says something that I believe to be positive he then goes into fuckwit mode and does something friggin stupid.

I'm still trying to come to terms with him and May holding hands, my god I can't believe that was allowed to happen.

If I walked into work tomorrow and a woman from another company came in for a meeting and I then was seen holding hands with her on the way out I would be in for some serious shit, if i had also previously gone on record as making sexist remarks it would be even worse. As for May, how could she possibly allow herself to be put in such a position.
 
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