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I understand where you are coming from but the effects of globalisation are more complex. I agree that at certain times in the economic cycle globalisation does generate wealth for all concerned, but we are not, particularly in the UK, in that part of the cycle anymore. It all boils down to supply and demand. The proof in my argument can be seen from the lack of real earnings growth as highlighted by the head of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, last year.

The decimation of our manufacturing sector in the UK is caused by cheaper labour costs elsewhere and little or no penalties or limitations to access this cheaper labour market. This has led to a huge loss of highly skilled and well-paid workers, not low-paid, unskilled jobs. I worked for many years within the engineering sector. My company sold specialist software and the year on year demise of the customer base, ie engineering companies, was terrible to watch. The fact was that no matter what they did they just couldn't compete with the likes of China and India. Their demise also had ramifications for the regional supply chain. Unfortunately, the UK doesn't have the economic muscle to lay down the law to manufacturers chasing cheap labour and higher profits, but clearly, the US does, and Trump is proving that intervention can work. Surely this is a good thing?

There are also different kinds of trade deals. I am particularly alarmed by the powers the TPP and TTIP give to corporations. People really need to ask the governments involved why they have included within the agreements the ability for corporations to sue nation states for potential future loss of earnings caused by a change in law or government policy. If Trump includes these powers in the trade agreements he negotiates my position towards him will change dramatically, but until then I applaud him for opting out of TPP and hopefully by implication TTIP.

You're still looking at it from the disgruntled employee perspective, and not taking into account the benefits to the man in the street. If you worked for Dyson, no doubt you'd be pissed off when manufacturing gets shifted to China. The rest of us, just benefit from the corporation tax Dyson has to pay and the fact that they are a successful company selling quality products at lower prices than they would be (or making higher profits and paying more tax).

Plus, you also completely ignore the economic crash that happened in 2007/8 and the impact that has had on earnings growth. We've all been hit very hard by that, and had we not been benefitting from open and free trade, we'd be even worse off.

I have no idea what you mean by "the UK doesn't have the economic muscle to lay down the law...". Laying down the law is a government function! It could if it wanted impose greater corporation tax on companies choosing to outsource labour, for example. And recycle those taxes into local business development projects. Personally I would not advocate that, but the government could do just that if it chose to. That it lets industries decline is a political choice.
 
Is it time to combine the Trump / EU threads if being pro-Brexit means being pro-Trump? Pointless anyway - by the time of a state visit, Trump will be too scared to leave the States for fear of a bloodless coup. (Or fear of the Pinochet scenario - arrest for crimes against humanity; admittedly the only one I can think of at the moment is the way he's "disappeared" so many Washington officials.)

Being pro Brexit doesn't make you pro Trump. Understanding why Brexit happened helps to understand why Trump happened though, and lots of people are still seemingly stuck on that.
 
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30...s-no-white-house-paper-trail-trump-president/

Steve Bannon Is Making Sure There’s No White House Paper Trail, Says Intel Source
The Trump administration’s chief strategist has already taken control of both policy and process on national security.

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If there was any question about who is largely in charge of national security behind the scenes at the White House, the answer is becoming increasingly clear: Steve Bannon, the former head of Breitbart News, a far-right media outlet, and now White House advisor.

Even before he was given a formal seat on the National Security Council’s “principals committee” this weekend by President Donald Trump, Bannon was calling the shots and doing so with little to no input from the National Security Council staff, according to an intelligence official who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.

“He is running a cabal, almost like a shadow NSC,” the official said. He described a work environment where there is little appetite for dissenting opinions, shockingly no paper trail of what’s being discussed and agreed upon at meetings, and no guidance or encouragement so far from above about how the National Security Council staff should be organized.

The intelligence official, who said he was willing to give the Trump administration the benefit of the doubt when it took office, is now deeply troubled by how things are being run.

“They ran all of these executive orders outside of the normal construct,” he said, referring to last week’s flurry of draft executive orders on everything from immigration to the return of CIA “black sites.”

After the controversial draft orders were written, the Trump team was very selective in how they routed them through the internal White House review process, the official said.

Under previous administrations, if someone thought another person or directorate had a stake in the issue at hand or expertise in a subject area, he or she was free to share the papers as long as the recipient had proper clearance.

With that standard in mind, when some officials saw Trump’s draft executive orders, they felt they had broad impact and shared them more widely for staffing and comments.

That did not sit well with Bannon or his staff, according to the official. More stringent guidelines for handling and routing were then instituted, and the National Security Council staff was largely cut out of the process.

By the end of the week, they weren’t the only ones left in the dark. Retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, the secretary of homeland security, was being briefed on the executive order, which called for immediately shutting the borders to nationals from seven largely Muslim countries and all refugees, while Trump was in the midst of signing the measure, the New York Times reported.

The White House did not respond in time to a request for comment.

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The lack of a paper trail documenting the decision-making process is also troubling, the intelligence official said. For example, under previous administrations, after a principals or deputies meeting of the National Security Council, the discussion, the final agreement, and the recommendations would be written up in what’s called a “summary of conclusions” — or SOC in government-speak.

“Under [President George W. Bush], the National Security Council was quite strict about recording SOCs,” said Matthew Waxman, a law professor at Columbia University who served on Bush’s National Security Council. “There was often a high level of generality, and there may have been some exceptions, but they were carefully crafted.”

These summaries also provided a record to refer back to, especially important if a debate over an issue came up again, including among agencies that needed to implement the conclusions reached.

If someone thought the discussion was mischaracterized, he or she would call for a correction to be issued to set the record straight, said Loren DeJonge Schulman, who previously served in former President Barack Obama’s administration as a senior advisor to National Security Advisor Susan Rice. Schulman is now a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security.

“People took the document seriously,” she said.

During the first week of the Trump administration, there were no SOCs, the intelligence official said. In fact, according to him, there is surprisingly very little paper being generated, and whatever paper there is, the NSC staff is not privy to it. He sees this as a deterioration of transparency and accountability.

“It would worry me if written records of these meeting were eliminated, because they contribute to good governance,” Waxman said.

It is equally important that NSC staff be the ones drafting the issue papers going into meetings, too, said Schulman. “The idea is to share with everyone a fair and balanced take on the issue, with the range of viewpoints captured in that document,” she said.

If those papers are now being generated by political staff, she added, it corrupts the whole process.

It could also contribute to Bannon’s centralization of power.

“He who has the pen has the authority to shape outcomes,” the intelligence official said.

Now Bannon’s role in the shadows is being formalized thanks to an executive order signed Saturday by Trump that formally gives Bannon a seat on the National Security Council’s principals committee. The same executive order removed from that group the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the director of national intelligence, and the secretary of energy. Their new diminished role is not unprecedented, but some still find it a troubling piece of this larger picture.

For example, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates — who served under both Bush and Obama — told ABC News this weekend that sidelining the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the director of national intelligence was a “big mistake.” Every president can benefit from their “perspective, judgment, and experience,” Gates said.

Meanwhile, Bannon’s new role is unprecedented. Under Obama, it wasn’t unheard of for his chief political advisors, John Podesta and David Axelrod, to attend NSC meetings, but they were never guaranteed a seat at the table. Under Bush, the line between national security and domestic political considerations was even clearer. Top aides have said they never saw Karl Rove or “anyone from his shop” in NSC meetings, and that’s because Bush told him explicitly not to attend.

The signal Bush “especially wanted to send to the military is that, ‘The decisions I’m making that involve life and death for the people in uniform will not be tainted by any political decisions,’” former White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten said last September.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called Bannon’s appointment to the council as a permanent member a “radical departure” from how the decision-making body was organized in the past, adding that he found the change “concerning.”

Inside and outside of government, there are also deep reservations about Bannon’s alignment with the far right and white nationalism, thanks to his previous leadership of Breitbart. One Bannon quote making the rounds this weekend: “Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down and destroy all of today’s establishment.”

There are new questions about where retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Trump’s national security advisor, fits into all of this. Internally, it remains unclear what his role is, the intelligence official said. “He has a voice at the table, but he’s overshadowed by Bannon.”

Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a former Bush national security aide whom Trump picked to serve as the White House’s homeland security advisor, is not “one of Bannon’s,” so he is also on the outside looking in, according to the official. However, in Saturday’s executive order, Bossert was also given a permanent seat on the NSC principals committee.

But there is not a lot of infighting right now, because to have infighting, there needs to be a power struggle, and there is no struggle, the intelligence official said.

However, there is an effort to crack down on leaking. Last week, a draft executive order, which raised the prospect of bringing back CIA “black sites” and reopening the debate on torture, leaked to the press. White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said it was “not a White House document” and that he had “no idea where it came from.” But according to the New York Times, “the White House had circulated it among National Security Council staff members for review on Tuesday morning.” The Times was even provided with the details of the email chain that showed “the draft order’s movements through the White House bureaucracy.”

“They’re doing a witch hunt now to find out how that got out,” the intelligence official said. “There is zero room for dissenting opinion.”

Trump did say publicly that he would defer to Defense Secretary James Mattis for now on the question of torture, which would suggest that disagreement is OK. But while publicly the president is allowing for different opinions, there is unhappiness about what is permitted behind the scenes, according to the official. If you take a stand against the White House, you might find yourself frozen out of future meetings, he said.

The NSC staff is mostly in shock after last week, the intelligence official said. For now, no one knows what each day will bring. There is no organizational chart yet for the NSC, meaning there has been no internal guidance yet about which portfolios still exist and to whom they report, the official said. The Washington Post reported Sunday on some of the changes being made, including that “some offices such as cyber have been expanded, while others have been collapsed.” The directorates on Europe and Russia, which were separate under Obama, have now been combined.

It’s possible that the current chaos and lack of bureaucratic process is a result of the Trump administration still going through growing pains and figuring out how best to run things. But former NSC officials said an organizational chart for the NSC is the kind of thing you have in place weeks before taking office.

Only time will tell if the way things are currently being done is deliberate or part of a new administration learning on the job how best to provide advice to the president and communicate with the relevant agencies.

Trump’s management style is known to be highly unstructured, if not chaotic. The Post reported in May that he was running his presidential campaign like he ran his business — “fond of promoting rivalries among subordinates, wary of delegating major decisions, scornful of convention and fiercely insistent on a culture of loyalty around him.”

“While this may have worked for his company, it is certainly not a way to run a country,” the official said.

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Trump über alles.
 
Trump fires the acting Attorney General as she upheld the law, the court judgement and the constitution.

Aren't we only 11 day's in?
 
Sweden hasn't stopped anyone coming in. If you had bothered to read the article the answer was there all along!

Those exceptions receive permanent residencey permits, btw. The UK only offers temporary residence permits on arrival, even to unaccompanied minors who then face deportation once they turn 18 - despite this being in contradiction of the UN convention on the rights of the child.


At least we can be thankful that Therese understands the concept with glass houses and stones.


“It pains me that Sweden is no longer capable of receiving asylum seekers at the high level we do today. We simply cannot do any more.”
Swedish PM.

Maybe I should've stated stopping rather than stopped but 10,000 'refugees' a week in a country of 10m is ridiculous, Sweden is on course to upping its population by 20% within a year and it's that bad that many of the 'refugees' have been sleeping rough, maybe if you have a spare room you could house some.


Edit, good to see that Mrs may values john with his defensive capabilities
 
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Trump fires the acting Attorney General as she upheld the law, the court judgement and the constitution.

Aren't we only 11 day's in?
Trump called it a "betrayal," as I believe her marching orders included the phrase "Arbeit Macht Frei" and she decided she wasn't going to "Arbeit" that way!
 
Don't understand all the shock at his cunty policies. It's only what he said he'd do in his campaign, and the folk feigning tears and anger are the same ones who a week ago were criticising him for not following through on the pre election promises such as the wall and the travel ban.

You think people angry at his plans for the wall and his unconstitutional ban on Muslim's were calling for all this last week?
 
Already gone ,all went to Malaysia
Dyson, one of the biggest proponents of Brexit, has moved all of his manufacturing to Malaysia and Singapore. I look forward to his announcement that the 4000 Asian jobs are going to be relocated back to the UK. I expect Satan will be strapping on his ice skates before that happens.
 
First of all, excellent use of the keyboard. 9/10 for that.
Not really sure what the point of your link was. I'm surmising that you you did a google search and only read the headline. Perhaps a little more focus on the content in future?
But a good effort at whataboutism to deflect from the issue of Britain's conduct towards refugees being worse than Trumps.
You need to work on your put downs a little bit, Bjorn.
 
Dyson, one of the biggest proponents of Brexit, has moved all of his manufacturing to Malaysia and Singapore. I look forward to his announcement that the 4000 Asian jobs are going to be relocated back to the UK. I expect Satan will be strapping on his ice skates before that happens.

What a fucking wanker that bloke is. Another lying bastard off the brexit campaign bus.
 
There is talk that he could sign an executive order on cyber security which will be a very extreme surveillance act.

At the same time he may sign an order curtailing some rights for the LGBT community.

Will cause outrage on second and the 1st will go under the radar. Just like how he changed his National Security team during all the immigration outrage.
 
What I don't understand is obama struggled to make his reforms as congressand the House of Representatives opposed a lot of his reforms, or diluted them.

Trump basically seems to be able to sign a piece of paper, these executive orders, and BOOM he can do whatever he wants. Where are these checks and balances?

Another day another long signature and another new law.
 
“It pains me that Sweden is no longer capable of receiving asylum seekers at the high level we do today. We simply cannot do any more.”
Swedish PM.

Maybe I should've stated stopping rather than stopped but 10,000 'refugees' a week in a country of 10m is ridiculous, Sweden is on course to upping its population by 20% within a year and it's that bad that many of the 'refugees' have been sleeping rough, maybe if you have a spare room you could house some.


Edit, good to see that Mrs may values john with his defensive capabilities
So Sweden is no longer capable of receiving asylum seekers?
Sadly, another democracy appears to have out Trumped Trump.
Does this ban last longer than 90 days?
 
Don't understand all the shock at his cunty policies. It's only what he said he'd do in his campaign, and the folk feigning tears and anger are the same ones who a week ago were criticising him for not following through on the pre election promises such as the wall and the travel ban.

"His opponents took him literally but not seriously. His supporters took him seriously but not literally".

Wasn't that the phrase his supporters came up with after he beat Clinton?
 
What I don't understand is obama struggled to make his reforms as congressand the House of Representatives opposed a lot of his reforms, or diluted them.

Trump basically seems to be able to sign a piece of paper, these executive orders, and BOOM he can do whatever he wants. Where are these checks and balances?

Another day another long signature and another new law.

The US President has quite extensive powers, related to defence and security, that he can use without House approval. eg he can start a nuclear war.
 
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