Weapons for the Free Syria Army

[cyberblue]

Well that was a great plan ,the weapons are now in the hands of Iss or what ever there name is this week .the weapons we gave the Iraq army is also in there hands ,we never learned the lessons of Afganistan what a fu*k up the west have made of this situation

 

[foxy]

I see a lot of the wealthier neighbouring countries have done a lot about the situation.... Most Saudi princes, Quatari Sheikhs and Emiratir Sheikhs are in London flashing their lambos...

 

[Challenger1978]

Well that was a great plan ,the weapons are now in the hands of Iss or what ever there name is this week .the weapons we gave the Iraq army is also in there hands ,we never learned the lessons of Afganistan what a fu*k up the west have made of this situation

We didn't actually give anyone weapons in Syria did we ?

 

[cyberblue]

Well that was a great plan ,the weapons are now in the hands of Iss or what ever there name is this week .the weapons we gave the Iraq army is also in there hands ,we never learned the lessons of Afganistan what a fu*k up the west have made of this situation

We didn't actually give anyone weapons in Syria did we ?

OK my mistake we flogged them

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Well that was a great plan ,the weapons are now in the hands of Iss or what ever there name is this week .the weapons we gave the Iraq army is also in there hands ,we never learned the lessons of Afganistan what a fu*k up the west have made of this situation

The foreign policy of this and previous UK governments has been an absolute shambles.....we isolate the Syrian and Iranian leadership (who are also enemies of ISIS) We create the vacuum in Syria and Iraq into which the jihadists flood. We provide the weapons which they are using either by selling them or having provided them to the Iraq forces.

Because of poor border controls we are unable to stop the flow of brits (said to be between 1500 and 2000) to join the Holy War or stop their return

they now control an area larger than Great Britain and the US and the UK can't even fly over Syrian airspace to attack the ISIS bases in the north of the 'Caliphate'.

The only friends of Syria who could get permission for us to do that are the Russians and , guess what, we've fallen out with them as well.

Still we'll be able to sort it out when our two new aircraft carriers go operational in 2020.........

 

[cyberblue]

Well that was a great plan ,the weapons are now in the hands of Iss or what ever there name is this week .the weapons we gave the Iraq army is also in there hands ,we never learned the lessons of Afganistan what a fu*k up the west have made of this situation

The foreign policy of this and previous UK governments has been an absolute shambles.....we isolate the Syrian and Iranian leadership (who are also enemies of ISIS) We create the vacuum in Syria and Iraq into which the jihadists flood. We provide the weapons which they are using either by selling them or having provided them to the Iraq forces.

Because of poor border controls we are unable to stop the flow of brits (said to be between 1500 and 2000) to join the Holy War or stop their return

they now control an area larger than Great Britain and the US and the UK can't even fly over Syrian airspace to attack the ISIS bases in the north of the 'Caliphate'.

The only friends of Syria who could get permission for us to do that are the Russians and , guess what, we've fallen out with them as well.

Still we'll be able to sort it out when our two new aircraft carriers go operational in 2020.........

Great post

 

[Blue Mist]

The OP's point about the Afghans is being missed.

When those nasty Commy Russians invaded Afghanistan we rushed to arm the Taliban to help them fight the Reds, even Rambo went over. Oh how jolly it all was......until our ally became our enemy.

The wheel keeps turning.

 

[Skashion]

The OP's point about the Afghans is being missed.

When those nasty Commy Russians invaded Afghanistan we rushed to arm the Taliban to help them fight the Reds, even Rambo went over. Oh how jolly it all was......until our ally became our enemy.

The wheel keeps turning.

and the thing is, morally, arming the Afghans to allow them to defend themselves and their land is completely justifiable. The huge problem with arming people, even for the right reasons, is that sometimes the bad guys fight the right fight. The west has seldom hit both marks. In fact, I think it's hit the bad guys in the bad fight, Israel for example, far more often than the good guys in the good fight.

 

[Blue Mist]

The OP's point about the Afghans is being missed.

When those nasty Commy Russians invaded Afghanistan we rushed to arm the Taliban to help them fight the Reds, even Rambo went over. Oh how jolly it all was......until our ally became our enemy.

The wheel keeps turning.

and the thing is, morally, arming the Afghans to allow them to defend themselves and their land is completely justifiable. The huge problem with arming people, even for the right reasons, is that sometimes the bad guys fight the right fight. The west has seldom hit both marks. In fact, I think it's hit the bad guys in the bad fight, Israel for example, far more often than the good guys in the good fight.

A good point as usual very well made. 'We' decide who we don't like and arm the other side. Who are 'we' to make that decision. (We being the political leaders of this country and the U.S) I do not see France, Spain Italy rushing to arm insurgents/countries/anybody but I guess their arms trade isn't as lucrative as ours.

I have a theory about the Northern Ireland situation which is not for this thread, but did 'we' allow it to go on for so long because it was a great way of testing new weapons, equipment, etc and training Doctors in battlefield wounds. as our weapons got better so did our bank balance as we sold millions of pounds worth to other countries having tested it in battle conditions ?

 

[cyberblue]

Selling arms is big buisness .the west isnt usually bothered who we flog them to untill they are turned against us