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because the English media see's what it wants to see. I can guarantee you no one in spain (the media) is discussing varanes blatant red card or sergio ramos' swinging elbows.

have to say baconface got his tactics spot on and if it wasnt for van persie's wastefullness they'd be in an even better position. Can see utd running riot in stretford madrids defence is there to be got at.

its far from corruption. Its the influence of ferguson. He has the officials scared. The longer the years go by the bigger his influence grows. Put it this way, if in 20 years time we are in a similar situation to utd now and our managers influence gives us the edge , i certainly wont be...

reffed us last season iirc apparently he qualifies as from cheshire

Re: Foy ... Fergie's woman it seemed to me foy completely lost his head after the red, trying to 'even things up'. He couldve easily gave utd another penalty aswell.

Re: Kompany's red card and appeal? this is the reason i think an appeal why be unsuccessful, can you imagine micks reaction if it was?

Re: Kompany's red card and appeal? 10 years ago thats never a foul, 5 years ago thats probably a yellow. Nowadays its a straight red. football has tunred into a non-contact sport, almost basketball-esque.

3-3 at goodison last year and 1-0 to utd at the swamp. I fancy a draw

where is this thread about the barcelona press?

I would prefer bruce to succeed him tbh

Theres no way something like that would be kept under wraps. It would come out instantly

I very rarely see ferguson actually go down to the touchline these days. Whene things are going really bad on the pitch (barcelona) he goes down their to bark out orders which makes it even more strange that he didnt shut up shop on sunday.

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I think Mark Halsley is the best ref out there but even he is capable of making a huge blunder.

It 'will', how do you know? I cant remember too many recent derbys being decided by referees (owens goal in the 20th minute of stoppage time) and i seem to remember us getting a soft pen against them in the carling cup but that didnt 'decide' the game. The refs in general are shit anyway

Who cares? all the refs are shite anyway, and the game wont be decided by the ref. If we turn up and play how we've been playing of late, we will win, regardless of the referee.

In all seriousness, what was the official figure in the end? I think i read somewhere around 250k turnt up ( i know what the fuck?, talk about pro-rag reporting)Think i may have to do some digging - the MEN should have the official figures

Erm, im sorry to piss on your parade (pun unintended) but you've posted a pictures of the streets before utd's parade and the ours bang in the middle of the parade. Although there is no disputing the fact their turnout was laughable and ours was mint. But you've clearly manipulated it in this...

Ferguson will bring them both back in when fit

Re: Best ever England player????? Moore or charlton