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Let's be clear about this, we only got (roughly) £750k MORE for winning the league than utd got for losing it, and they got £750k more than Arsenal. The real suffering comes for the teams who've never been in the Prem, or haven't since the parachute payments scheme started a few years ago.

What do you think this is? UEFA? No we have a good old fashioned water balloon fight between fans on the banks of the Irwell. Wettest side loses.

As I understand it from people who know more than me, as regards the group stages, it's better for us if Chelsea don't win the CL, because if they do, they or we might get "paired" with utd for TV, which could put us in a worse position.

To be absolutely honest, anything less than winning the league for the next 17 seasons in a row will be a heck of a disappointment. But if we can win it every year for a while, just long enough that utd begin to collapse financially, Liverpool get Mourinho in and pip us to another title before...

Shall I give you a couple of hours to watch Inception before you realise what actually happened?

Re: It's just a picture. It's a shame the club's statement wasn't "We don't really understand the joke. Ferguson isn't dead."

Let's put some perspective on this. The police said "200,000" went to London to protest the war - whereas unofficial figures reckoned a million people (in short, a lot higher than the police). A million people is a serious, serious fuckton of people and anyone who's been to Wembley will surely...

I gather their media team has an endless loop of a desert with a tumbleweed to play til August. It sounds like a step up from their usual programming.

He was on Radio 5 earlier, sober and quite pragmatic about the one blue of his siblings who he says probably supports City because of his brothers' belligerence. Just desserts

This. Long enough to see us win our 20th is perhaps pushing his luck a bit.

I totally agree. I sincerely hope we are fighting Spurs and Newcastle instead of the rags.

It's a homage to the 1980s film production studio, TriStar. Their flying horse looked out of place coming out of the crest so they swapped it for a subtle hint.

City, hung out to dry for the last time.

To be fair, utd still make an operating profit, so they are in fact living within their quite clearly lavish means, and they're only £450m in debt, or at least that's what a recent piece on English clubs' debts said. Unlike Chelsea, whose debt is about £750m. I think they or one of the Russian...

I put everything in life down to an educational experience, and after the sheer hilarity of watching Pearce miss that spot kick in 01(?), and Fowler miss that spot kick in 04(?), I was happy to be further educated in what it feels like to stand in solidarity with 40,000 despondent but humble...

Still laughing

The ones who ran on after Sergio scored.... stupid, mindless, idiotic, selfish, etc..... but absolutely justified at the final whistle I don't regret going on the pitch at MR after the Wigan game in 99 - it wasn't even a trophy win, we were just delighted to have done enough to reach Wembley...

It's been humbling, but I can't say I'm surprised. I do wonder what all these neutrals' reactions would have been if JT hadn't slipped in Moscow. Probably "take that Ronaldo you sad bastard". As it was I think they all politely applauded and said "oh well". I mainly felt sorry for Avram Grant...

utd threw their entire season in the last minute at the swamp, when they knew they were well beat. So?

The girl I saw out fo the corner of my eye, about 19, shoulder length dark hair, stood down on the front of EL207 block at the end, with the skinny white top and the "Superbia in Proelio" cursive tattoo on her left shoulder, not only did I think "nice tattoo, and she also has rather attractive...