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And yet most of them still pay their executives more than the country pay a prime minister (of any party) ! That'll be them looking after their constituents :-o

Except that we are talking about Birmingham pissing three quarters of a billion (rising everyday) of taxpayers cash after being warned that what they were doing would open them to exactly what has happened. How do you cure stupid at that level ? I know, give them even more to waste. Like...

If you'd had a listen to Jeremy Vine earlier you'd have heard the Labour MP for Edgbaston saying that it was complete financial incompetence, and mismanagement on the council's side. Interesting to find that Unison think the same. A councillor from the local (enemy, just for you) Tory group...

Wow, you really fail to comprehend, is that on purpose, or because you are so entrenched ? Where have I supported the Tories, show me, because as far as I'm concerned they are just equal and opposite to what you're proposing, talk of boom and bust never ending. Do you not see that both of our...

Ah, unlimited funding, I wish that I was smart enough to think of that. People don't have unlimited pockets though, and who do you think will be the worst hit, as a percentage of their disposable income, would be ? It's easy to spend tax cash, particularly when you face no repercussions, or...

And who will this hit the hardest, who will worry the most, the employees at the top of the payscale with their payoff options, or the cooks, cleaners, waste disposal operatives, and general office staff ?

Perhaps if the councils hadn't spent decades underpaying their female employees, or maybe if the courts hadn't found it unlawful we wouldn't be in thiis mess. Perhaps if highly paid executives who are well paid to sort out, and alleviate problems took some responsibility for something they knew...

Might be something to do with the size/status of the countrys second city, wouldn't you think ? My own local council was heading for the same, luckily one of the political parties propositions were defeated, a proposition that would have taken the council into bankruptcy.

I see that you are another that only picks, and chooses the bits you want to comprehend, and ignore the rest. Then you go on to scream hysterically that anyone that veers from your opinion is a TORY. You've done it before, it gets boring really fast, and isn't true no matter how much you wish...

Who is kicking up about about good terms and conditions ? Apart from yourself that is ! This thread is supposed to be abouth Birmingham council filing for bankruptcy (in as much as a council technically can), but as usual it's turned into perceived left vs right with personal jibes being...

I see that the answer is that you don't comprehend so well ! ;-)

Do you not comprehend so well, or do you just like a perceived pile on? If you read it you will see that far from complaining I'm showing a difference between conditions working for a public employer, and a private organisation. Length of service is no different !

I'm offended on your behalf....LOL We were talking management, and basically the difference between those who can talk a good job, and those who can actually do a good job. What have the nurses got to do with it, somewhat of a strawman argument methinks for the sake of a poor point !

I have worked 'on the tools', and in management in both private, and public sector I've also been TUPE'd between them numerous times. I can tell you where it is easier, and it isn't in the private sector, most of the managers that moved at the same time as myself were 'found out' and moved on or...

Is that not saying what I just stated. When the benefits to them are more, they will be off ! The result of which is that the crap is left. The ones who accept no responsibility.

That old chestnut, they do it out of the goodness of their hearts as a favour to us ungrateful tax payers. If they could get more in the private sector, when you start adding in benefits like gold plated pensions, extra holidays, and more generous things like sick pay, and conditions they'd be...

I wasn't talking about streaming, but downloading all of the series, in one go, or as you need them.

Yet you have t'interweb, the answer to all of your viewing problems ;-)

And that is proof that I'm making this one political is it...........Case rested m'lord...LOL It's an anti crap management statement, and that includes the present government, Labour Councils, Conservative councils, any colour of rosette councils inbetween, NHS, Water companies etc, etc. They...

Same shit, different shovel. Why are you trying to make it Lab v Con thing, it's a crap management thing !