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Maybe to borrow money Barclay's Bank style to fund a new OT.

At least they ask the question. Whether they understand the answer is debatable.

I've a feeling you may have to increase the intensity of your shambles descriptions as the list of clubs affected increases.

I agree, point them in the right direction instead of acting like turkeys voting for Xmas. I'm inclined to think that our data collection efforts over many years has evidence that other PL clubs have been ignored so what about them? Whataboutery reversed.

They certainly feel that we have been responsible for the rules having to be tightened further and further until their teams are included. A bit like HMCE having to cover tax loopholes that tax accountants use against lax rules. Only the rich can use them for a short time then they move on to...

Afternoon snooze for our 2 cata in the Spanish sun.

Actually a good point I share your misgivings because like the old saying, any organisation or forum that accepts me as a member must be full of lunatics. Perhaps I should have said that a bit like Mr Putin when watching football on most media we can almost guarentee it will not be pro City.

Actually many City fans have not yet wigged that Sky and BBC are biased against us. They believe the media. My brother is a season ticket holder but falls into the above category. Stefan is educating those who choose to watch TS the rest of us rely on BM.

That's how I remember it in the engineering sector. Brainstorming meetings with everyone's opinion grouped then into about 3 or 4 lists. Each discussed especially the non obvious ones ie out of the box methods. The same thing happened at finance level with options to fund say a new CNC machine...

I remember my first introduction to the art of pipe smoking all those decades ago. My father in law to be had a routine, he first cleaned out the pipe with his special pen knife with all the smoking gadgets on it then cut himself a chunch of tobacco (condor from memory), this he rubbed between...

It has been made obvious from the time our owner bought City that we were simply not wanted with the new owner. No change there.

Maybe the incentives they gave to other teams in the PL to vote through their policies should have included an immunity clause like the red shirts seem to get.

I think they felt at the time of the so called charges that City were at a low ebb both on the field and off so City were likely to fall apart completely and. look for a settlement because of the charges. Unfortunately it had the reverse effect producing a treble season and a massive financial...

I suppose RE talksh Mr Jordan has put himself forward as legally competent so he may resist a proper legal / finance expert. The other reason is that a real expert is likely to agree with Stefan. Where's the reward for confrontation in that?

That is our owners decision. We as fans feel aggrieved but he as an investor concentrates on making money. Dare I say he will be getting massive satisfaction from depriving the other clubs from the majority of their self entitled share outs. Hit them where it hurts most. I wonder what will...

Stefan is changing the public perspective but unless even City fans read this thread the media lies and the drip drip of accusation has been effective.

Completely the fault of City that these rules have had to be tweaked chronically. If we had taken our medicine instead of demonstrating that quality throughout the management will eventually allow our total success this would not have happened. In short we are responsible for the shambles...

Thanks for reply. Even the most gullible of the PL members must be dismayed at the amount extra they will have to pay to suit the continuing legal costs after the exchange of evidence. Perhaps the hubris of the PL is still convinced City will want to settle as in previous situations.

So if they carry on and secure a small victory you think that is enough to justify the massive extra time in court bill the PL members must subscribe to,? Like being found not guilty of murder but maximum penalty for out of date tax disc on the car. Wolves etc will be pleased.

Is it possible at even this late stage that a statement by the PL would halt procedings.? By that I mean something acceptable to City that say admits their gut feeling about payment details was simply misplaced. If so now they have all the things City refused to originally gave surely it will be...