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The danger is growing that even a modest points deduction might do us in, if applied this season.

Maybe it just is what it is.

I have always had a sceptical view of a lot of this so called data analysis. If it is saying that the current performances are not too bad I now convinced it is a load of bollox. I won't be reading the article thank-you.

Have thought long and hard about this and the answer is no one. The second half display was very poor even before the implosion. Thos surely has to be the low point of this bad spell if not we are fucked.

My point is he may not be able to turn it around in his own mind. Anyway we will find out soon.

I said some time back I felt he might be nearing the end of his stay. There was something terminal about that display today. If he is to turn this around he must start soon.

Depends on the abuse level. Most people should be able to accept some fairly harsh stuff if they are not performing. I agree some people cross the line, then of course you have the totally unacceptable suck as what was sent Kyle Walker's way the other night.

If you talk down to people like that don't be surprised to receive no respect in return. We are all entitled to our views if they are expressed in a reasonable manner.

I think there is a big difference between been critical on a forum and hurling abuse at players during a game. Personally I believe in the right to openly question players and management if things go wrong as currently. Equally others are fully entitled to give unwavering support to the club...

Within reasonable parameters you are allowed to be as critical as you want about players, they are after all well paid professionals. However, the abuse hurled at Kyle Walker passed well outside the boundary that is acceptable. The people who post this filth should not be allowed into football...

Fully agree and to think we should have won the Cup and also perhaps the CL means it was a classic overachievement. The fall from grace has been sudden and severe hopefully we can regather our composure and get something out of the season.

Sadly you might be right about that.

A tad harsh that. I think the man deserves a chance to turn things round and hopefully rebuild. Now I do agree that your only as good as your last game and no matter how much credit the man has built up over the years he must at least stabilise things over the next couple of months. A win on...

Having travelled down the lonely road that was the 80’s and 90’s I know where you are coming from. But even in the bad old days sometimes enough was enough. If a team ceases to function at anything approaching a basic level questions need to be asked. At the end of the day it's all about results...

We are about to find out over the next couple of months just how good a manager Pep is. The question was always raised that he wouldn't do it with a Bristol or a Bilbao. He only succeeds with the best crop. Well now he has a stable full of donkeys it appears with a Gold Cup coming up. Can he do it?

At this stage could they be any worse?

Unless he starts to turn around this form he may not even get to the end of the season. We are very nearly in free fall. Even the best manager of all time has a sell by date.

Charming

Exactly. The elephant in the room.

Unless he gets fit and stays fit I am not sure how much longer we can carry this guy. A great player when he lines out but is a long way from dependable.