“City Matters” fan committee

It’s not just Sean though. I can easily think of over 25 people I know, probably a lot more if I thought about it long enough, who would be at 28 out of 30 games as a minimum. Someone reckoned that there are maybe 1,000 people who are in that category. If Southampton beat Leicester, those people will be there at St Mary’s on a Tuesday or Wednesday night. They’ve got to have first crack at tickets. It’s only right.

However many there are, I don't think their loyalty should be overlooked and it should have a bearing on their ability to get tickets and I think a majority of 40,000+ seasoncard holders would agree with that. However, at the same time, I think the majority of 40,000 seasoncard holders would also agree that they shouldn't get priority all of the time. That's why a ballot system weighted in their favour but which doesn't automatically grant them tickets would, I think, be a much fairer way of doing things, especially to younger fans.
 
However many there are, I don't think their loyalty should be overlooked and it should have a bearing on their ability to get tickets and I think a majority of 40,000+ seasoncard holders would agree with that. However, at the same time, I think the majority of 40,000 seasoncard holders would also agree that they shouldn't get priority all of the time. That's why a ballot system weighted in their favour but which doesn't automatically grant them tickets would, I think, be a much fairer way of doing things, especially to younger fans.
You might not want to answer but have you been to any away games this year?
 

Interestingly (or not), I had to buy my ticket second hand from someone who had more loyalty points than me who wasn't going himself.

I didn't see your edit but I'm guessing a lot of the younger fans who I saw would have got their tickets in a similar way to me or maybe via a supporters club.
 
This ballot idea sounds a great idea whilst we are winning everything but it wasn't that long ago that we were shit and I don't mean York away. The loyal fans built up their points by doing the hard miles. IIRC Bristol City (away) last season didn't sell out but I bet most on 20,000 points went.
Perhaps it is just for the Dippers and Rags that we should have a ballot ?
 
This ballot idea sounds a great idea whilst we are winning everything but it wasn't that long ago that we were shit and I don't mean York away. The loyal fans built up their points by doing the hard miles. IIRC Bristol City (away) last season didn't sell out but I bet most on 20,000 points went.
Perhaps it is just for the Dippers and Rags that we should have a ballot ?
So the hard core, of about a thousand or less (I think it’s more like 500), follow City up and down the country, and abroad, to the unglamorous games but have to go into a ballot for the big games with people who haven’t gone up to the unglamorous games?
 
The ballot for all can't be done.
There will be uproar from loyal fans who have gone home and away for years.
Also the club has sold loyalty points with platinum etc.. since we moved to the stadium.
If they scrap a scheme where they have sold points on the provisio it helps your points total for the purchase of tickets, surely they will be obliged to refund everyone who has paid £50 extra a season.
The way i think it should be done if there is a change is as follows: Have different pots of tickets for different sets of fans:

say we get 3000 away tickets it could be split something like this:

A, Existing Loyalty point members get 1200 tickets
B, Supporters club 700 tickets
C, Corporate and staff 500 tickets
D, Ballot (for members who have no loyalty points or cant purchase due to A,B,C being sold out) 600 tickets

Doing it like this, your'e looking after all sections of fans including those with existing points, supporters club and it gives those with no loyalty points the opportunity to purchase tickets.

The numbers may need to be based on a percentage rather than direct number due to changing away ticket allocations.

What you think PB?
 
I understand what you are saying in regards to loyal fans, but something has to change in my opinion. Unless you know someone it’s bascially impossible for younger fans to get tickets to away matches.
You always bang on about younger fans, but its not only them. As I posted earlier, I was able to get a ticket for pretty much all the away games about 5 years ago, my only away game last year was in Ukraine (and a great time was had).

Despite being eligible for most away games, I often couldn't go because I work shifts and weekends, I also live a long way from Manchester, and every home game is like an away game for me, and so I prioritise those as a season card holder. I've done all the distant away games over the years, but because I could only ever manage 7 or 8 away games a season (and most home games), I fell back points wise each season, and about 5 years ago, it became difficult to get tickets, I then dropped platinum as it wasn't worth the extra £50 as my point got further and further behind the top ones.

I'm now luckily at a position in life where I could do most home and away games (financially and work wise), but only occasionally are my points good enough for away games. My lad is 28 (so part of your younger fans, and he's done the hard years since he was about 7 or 8), and just down to having platinum he's passed my points total, but we go together, so he can get some away tickets now but I can't, and so he's also not going as often.

Something needs to change to benefit ALL groups, not just one or another group, and like PB says those who go everywhere should continue to be the first priority, but we need a system that doesn't allow some fans to buy tickets with no intention of ever going to most, but just keeping their points total artificially high so they can pick and choose the top games, and just sell on to others the ones they're not arsed going too.

No idea what that system looks like, but hopefully we can find some compromise somehow, but for ALL groups not just yours.
 

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