“The work of God”?

[tonea2003]

If your god is Omnipotent, Omniscient & Omnipresent, then he knows everything, and everyone's life is pre-ordained. Praying is merely a desperate plea to get him/her to change his/her mind.

and surprise surprise it never does

 

[vmsuhail]

If your god is Omnipotent, Omniscient & Omnipresent, then he knows everything, and everyone's life is pre-ordained. Praying is merely a desperate plea to get him/her to change his/her mind.

What if it's pre-ordained because of knowledge of our own deeds/prayers etc. ?

 

[Chippy_boy]

What if it's pre-ordained because of knowledge of our own deeds/prayers etc. ?

Pre-ordained and omni-potent are contradictions. An entity is not omni-potent if it can't change anything.

(OT, I am firmly of the belief (based on scientific inference, not blind faith) that everything is pre-ordained and that the future already "exists", merely that we cannot perceive it yet. But that is another discussion altogether.)

 

[vmsuhail]

Pre-ordained and omni-potent are contradictions. An entity is not omni-potent if it can't change anything.

(OT, I am firmly of the belief (based on scientific inference, not blind faith) that everything is pre-ordained and that the future already "exists", merely that we cannot perceive it yet. But that is another discussion altogether.)

It's not a contradiction. If God doesn't change His will in certain matters, it doesn't mean He cannot. It's like asking the question, can God lie ? God doesn't lie doesn't contradict His omnipotency. He can, but He will not.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It's not a contradiction. If God doesn't change His will in certain matters, it doesn't mean He cannot. It's like asking the question, can God lie ? God doesn't lie doesn't contradict His omnipotency. He can, but He will not.

It's a load of bollocks, that's what it is.

"The work of Cod" is just as likely.

 

[Sir peace frog]

I'm surprised in this day and age that people actually still believe there is a god, everyone is entitled to their beliefs , but surely it can be proved the bible was a fairytale and no one has ever proved there WAS a god.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

I'm surprised in this day and age that people actually still believe there is a god, everyone is entitled to their beliefs , but surely it can be proved the bible was a fairytale and no one has ever proved there WAS a god.

You evidently don’t need proof...just blind faith that in most cases contradicts scientific knowledge and what we know about the world/universe today, versus what uneducated folk knew about the world/universe when they wrote respective books proclaiming miracles.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Surely the miracle of Tanya Roberts coming back to life in her own rip thread is proof there is a God?