“White men should have black slaves” - Tory councillor

[I'm With Stupid]

How about “meritocracy” ? in China the people that govern do so on merit.

Haha, yeah of course they do. Or on nepotism, cronyism and outright corruption. It's easy to build up a lot of 'merit' when the job you do isn't subject to any sort of open scrutiny. They have also created a system that rewards overstating economic results. You get 'promoted' by doing a good job in the regions, but it suits everyone to ensure that you are at least publicly always doing a good job. A study that used satellite imagery as a proxy for economic growth (thereby bypassing the need to believe official figures) revealed that on average, dictatorships overstate their economic growth by 30% (and interestingly, countries in receipt of overseas aid don't do this, because there's an incentive not to). It estimated that China's economy is 12% smaller than official figures.

The reality of countries like China is that government jobs are frequently something you have to buy, often at many times the annual salary. Which is why it basically forces you into corruption, because you've paid for a job that has a lot of social clout, but quite an ordinary salary. So in order to pay off the investment, you need to use the job for personal gain. But that's how it works. Make sure everyone is corrupt, and then every stays in line, because they can always be legitimately caught up in a 'corruption crackdown' that always coincidentally targets political rivals of the ruling classes.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

We're at the stage where nothing can be believed. Its worrying for the future .

Racist recording of Cllr Andrew Edwards could have been a ‘deep fake’

THE COUNCILLOR accused of making racist comments in a private conversation – which was recorded and posted online may be the victim of a ‘deep fake’, The Herald can reveal. Cllr Andrew Edwards says he does not recall ever saying those words – and analysis of the recording has shown...

pembrokeshire-herald.com

I am not saying this guys story is true or not (And this guy has resigned anyways) but clearly we're at the stage where anyone can make a very good fake recording of someone.

 

[Scottyboi]

We're at the stage where nothing can be believed. Its worrying for the future .

Racist recording of Cllr Andrew Edwards could have been a ‘deep fake’

THE COUNCILLOR accused of making racist comments in a private conversation – which was recorded and posted online may be the victim of a ‘deep fake’, The Herald can reveal. Cllr Andrew Edwards says he does not recall ever saying those words – and analysis of the recording has shown...

pembrokeshire-herald.com

I am not saying this guys story is true or not (And this guy has resigned anyways) but clearly we're at the stage where anyone can make a very good fake recording of someone.

We're about to enter some scary times in the next 10 years, on Tiktok people showcase the power of AI making music, films, pictures, it will only get better, not sure how it is countered tbh.

 

[hcblue95]

We're at the stage where nothing can be believed. Its worrying for the future .

Racist recording of Cllr Andrew Edwards could have been a ‘deep fake’

THE COUNCILLOR accused of making racist comments in a private conversation – which was recorded and posted online may be the victim of a ‘deep fake’, The Herald can reveal. Cllr Andrew Edwards says he does not recall ever saying those words – and analysis of the recording has shown...

pembrokeshire-herald.com

I am not saying this guys story is true or not (And this guy has resigned anyways) but clearly we're at the stage where anyone can make a very good fake recording of someone.

He's not very convincing when he says he doesn't recall saying those words. It's like when Boris Johnson says he doesn't recall something. It's so that later on when someone proves he did say it he can say he didn't lie.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

He's not very convincing when he says he doesn't recall saying those words. It's like when Boris Johnson says he doesn't recall something. It's so that later on when someone proves he did say it he can say he didn't lie.

Tbh I think he's said it. But I dont know. That's my point we dont know what is true or not in future.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Tbh I think he's said it. But I dont know. That's my point we dont know what is true or not in future.

You may be right but I'm sure technology exists that can already detect differences between a voice and an impersonator.

Deepfake AI could get to the stage where it produces good fakes that can fool humans ears but not machines. If something has been chopped up and spliced together it is likely to leave a trace that reveals it is artificial to experts and specialist equipment.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

We're at the stage where nothing can be believed. Its worrying for the future .

Racist recording of Cllr Andrew Edwards could have been a ‘deep fake’

THE COUNCILLOR accused of making racist comments in a private conversation – which was recorded and posted online may be the victim of a ‘deep fake’, The Herald can reveal. Cllr Andrew Edwards says he does not recall ever saying those words – and analysis of the recording has shown...

pembrokeshire-herald.com

I am not saying this guys story is true or not (And this guy has resigned anyways) but clearly we're at the stage where anyone can make a very good fake recording of someone.

I mean to be fair, it's such an insane thing to say in 2023, that I'm tempted to believe no-one could be that stupid.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

We're about to enter some scary times in the next 10 years, on Tiktok people showcase the power of AI making music, films, pictures, it will only get better, not sure how it is countered tbh.

But we're also entering an era of a convenient excuse for all sorts of awful behaviour. "It wasn't me, it was a deep fake." Right alongside "I was hacked."

 

[City Hobgoblin]

We're at the stage where nothing can be believed. Its worrying for the future .

Racist recording of Cllr Andrew Edwards could have been a ‘deep fake’

THE COUNCILLOR accused of making racist comments in a private conversation – which was recorded and posted online may be the victim of a ‘deep fake’, The Herald can reveal. Cllr Andrew Edwards says he does not recall ever saying those words – and analysis of the recording has shown...

pembrokeshire-herald.com

I am not saying this guys story is true or not (And this guy has resigned anyways) but clearly we're at the stage where anyone can make a very good fake recording of someone.

Completely undermines truth and democracy.
We don't know if what we see and hear is true.
And those who do / say questionable or bad stuff can play the "it was deep faked" card. Even if they are guilty.

 

[Scottyboi]

But we're also entering an era of a convenient excuse for all sorts of awful behaviour. "It wasn't me, it was a deep fake." Right alongside "I was hacked."

Well yes that is my point will be all sorts of excuses and some will be legit.