1 | James Trafford - 2025/26

I thought he did fine playing out from the back today. Not as confident as Ederson is but then who else is? After last week he did really well and showed real character. To do that behind a back 4 who have never played together does him real credit. I think he is an excellent buy and will prove that over the next decade.
Totally agree, his playing out was fine today for me.
 
A part of me is happy bringing in Donnarumma because, I mean, who wouldn't want the best GK in the world right now.

However, I cannot help but feel sorry for Trafford. Feel like we are throwing him under the bus.

The club, rightly or wrongly, signed him to be our long term goalkeeper. Stick by your conviction and back him.

It's not like Donnarumma is a stop gap goalkeeper. He is only like 2 or 3 years older than Trafford himself.
 
Around 75% of penalties are scored, so him saving that one on its own was unlikely. Over time, he should save some. Ederson's had time, and saved fuck all.

Not that we should be 'expecting' penalty saves anyway really. I'm happy enough seeing the saves he did make today - he did everything that could realistically be asked of him. Including the passing.
I think its actually a lot higher than that now. Percentage of penalties saved over the last few years in the prem from 2020- 2024 season were 10.4%, 11.65%, 17.17%, 7.55%, Excluding penalty shootouts, Ederson has saved 3 from 26 penalties hes faced for us, an 11.53% save rate which compared to the saved rates over the last few seasons isnt at all out of line.

I agree we shouldn't expect a keeper to save a penalty that has been my stance throughout, right back to when the Ederson shitposting for not saving penalties started and that's my point here, the people that was constantly berating Ederson for not saving penalties are noticeably quiet when another keeper also fails to save a penalty, its almost like they didnt have a valid point.
 
A part of me is happy bringing in Donnarumma because, I mean, who wouldn't want the best GK in the world right now.

However, I cannot help but feel sorry for Trafford. Feel like we are throwing him under the bus.

The club, rightly or wrongly, signed him to be our long term goalkeeper. Stick by your conviction and back him.

It's not like Donnarumma is a stop gap goalkeeper. He is only like 2 or 3 years older than Trafford himself.
He’ll be gone by next summer if we sign him in my opinion. Donnaruma signing completely blocks any chance of him becoming our keeper.

on a separate note I’m just watching MOTD and raya giving the ball away very similar to Trafford last week. Playing out the back is causing all keepers to make errors
 
I think its actually a lot higher than that now. Percentage of penalties saved over the last few years in the prem from 2020- 2024 season were 10.4%, 11.65%, 17.17%, 7.55%, Excluding penalty shootouts, Ederson has saved 3 from 26 penalties hes faced for us, an 11.53% save rate which compared to the saved rates over the last few seasons isnt at all out of line.

I agree we shouldn't expect a keeper to save a penalty that has been my stance throughout, right back to when the Ederson shitposting for not saving penalties started and that's my point here, the people that was constantly berating Ederson for not saving penalties are noticeably quiet when another keeper also fails to save a penalty, its almost like they didnt have a valid point.

The % difference probably allows for those missed as well as saved I guess.

Can't expect individual penalties to be saved, you do hope though that overtime some crucial ones are saved. Maybe Traf can do that for us, hopefully he gets chance to. Although on this occasion he went the wrong way, I liked that he fully committed to going that way, so would have had a chance of a save if it were a well taken penalty in that direction.
 
The % difference probably allows for those missed as well as saved I guess.

Can't expect individual penalties to be saved, you do hope though that overtime some crucial ones are saved. Maybe Traf can do that for us, hopefully he gets chance to. Although on this occasion he went the wrong way, I liked that he fully committed to going that way, so would have had a chance of a save if it were a well taken penalty in that direction.

81.6%, 81.55%, 74.75%, 89.62% those are the conversion rates during the same period with the difference being those that missed.

As you say, penalties shouldn't be expected to be saved which is why the comments about Ederson not saving them were always stupid, he saves about what is expected, granted there are keepers who save more but too much importance is placed on what is essentially less than a goal a season.
 
A part of me is happy bringing in Donnarumma because, I mean, who wouldn't want the best GK in the world right now.

However, I cannot help but feel sorry for Trafford. Feel like we are throwing him under the bus.

The club, rightly or wrongly, signed him to be our long term goalkeeper. Stick by your conviction and back him.

It's not like Donnarumma is a stop gap goalkeeper. He is only like 2 or 3 years older than Trafford himself.
Yeah, nothing against Trafford but 30m spent on a reserve that could have gone towards signing an actual fucking right back!
 
Last time I made a comment on Trafford, I noted he looked shaky because the defence was on top of him and making him look worse than he was. It's difficult being young and coming into a team with big ambitions and having teammates that have been there, done that demanding the ball from you in tight positions, you're gonna bow to that pressure.

However, yesterday, he was given space to pass to a teammate and he looked way better with the decision making. The Gordon Banks-like save he pulled off Ederson was never getting to! Absolute positivity!

The only negative is Trafford going with the 'up and under' distribution. That was so weird to see as we haven't done that for years! I think if Trafford can flatten out the trajectory of his distribution it might be better for us.
 
Played really well yesterday and the signing of Donnarumma is more evidence (as if we needed it) that the board don't seem to have a clue what they're doing. Ederson was staying a few months back and now he's not? Are they letting the players choose if they want to be here or not? So many baffling decisions.
 
A part of me is happy bringing in Donnarumma because, I mean, who wouldn't want the best GK in the world right now.

However, I cannot help but feel sorry for Trafford. Feel like we are throwing him under the bus.

The club, rightly or wrongly, signed him to be our long term goalkeeper. Stick by your conviction and back him.

It's not like Donnarumma is a stop gap goalkeeper. He is only like 2 or 3 years older than Trafford himself.
Getting Donnarumma in for £30m is great business. Trafford trains alongside one of the best in the world. Donnarumma does 2 or 3 seasons, Trafford grows into top keeper and Donnarumma will be still be worth more than £30m at age 30.
 
He's prevented 1.85 goals in 3 games. That'd 20 goals a season in the league if he kept it up, which is pretty similar to what he managed last year at burnley. In comparison Donnarruma prevented -3.6 goals in the league last year (i.e. cost them 3.6 goals).

I hope we're not making a costly mistake sacking off Trafford after a strong start (big error with his feet aside)
 
Fantastic showing.

Feel sorry for the lad. Puts in arguably a man of the match performance and the club ends up putting another keeper in the starting spot.
 
Getting Donnarumma in for £30m is great business. Trafford trains alongside one of the best in the world. Donnarumma does 2 or 3 seasons, Trafford grows into top keeper and Donnarumma will be still be worth more than £30m at age 30.
Donna being worth what we paid for him in a couple of years is good for what? Would we sell him to one of our rivals just because Trafford might be ready? I doubt it, let's face it buying Donna is a shit move for one of them, Trafford only plays if Donna turns to shit, and in that case we have wasted more money and are stuck with a high earner, lose lose this keeper business we've done
 
Didn't put a foot wrong today
I didn’t think so either thought he had a great game.
Sky however think differently. What were his errors yesterday?

From Sky report on Donarumma …
Trafford, who returned to City for £31m in the summer, could make his England debut during the international break. However, he has endured a mixed start, with costly mistakes in the defeat to Spurs and in the loss at Brighton on Sunday.
 
I didn’t think so either thought he had a great game.
Sky however think differently. What were his errors yesterday?

From Sky report on Donarumma …
Trafford, who returned to City for £31m in the summer, could make his England debut during the international break. However, he has endured a mixed start, with costly mistakes in the defeat to Spurs and in the loss at Brighton on Sunday.
Wtf.
 

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