Whitworth Park said:danburge82 said:In France in 1998 we were running riot in some places. By all accounts the most violent set of fans at the tournament.SWP's back said:Are you taking the piss?
Great deflection by the way.
Did we see this amount of violence at Euro 96? Did we fuck. The figures quoted are at the Euro's, not in town centres up and down Poland and the Ukraine that would happen with or without a major sporting event taking place.
It's a disgrace Uefa allowed the tournament to take place there and shows that bluemooner's stating "there'll be no trouble, I went to Poznan and it was fine" was bollocks. For the Irish fans to get into bother, you know something is not right. They never have trouble anywhere, they are well loved universally, normally.
-- Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:22 pm --
People who think England should win the buds to host World Cups are like Liverpool fans who think they belong at the top of the league.Slicker than Sommeil said:No.
I agree with FIFA, England have had it before, it's right to give it to places that haven't had it, bit selfish and greedy otherwise.
We have no right to any of it. Plus we don't had enough decent stadiums. Milton Keynes?! Come on!
A World Cup in Russia will be good. Great drinking, even better women!
We have plenty decent stadiums
City / Rags / Emirates / Newcastle / Sunderland are the best IMO.
Nothing wrong with Milton Keynes, it just needs the second tier finishing
off which it would be if we got the nod.
What we have is an FA who think things should be spread out to shit holes
like Leeds, Liverpool and Brum, the areas around Villa Park and Anfield
are the pits.
It should be centered aroung Manchester, North East and London.
The new Olympic Stadium and Twickenham which it a brilliant stadium
could come into the equasion.
I agree things should be spread out but thats not what it's all about.
It's who gives the biggest bung.
Slicker than Sommeil said:Berkovic_blue said:Slicker than Sommeil said:Obviously not.
I was thinking more Syria.
But seriously, there are countries that haven't had it before that could benefit from it massively, in terms of their nation and leagues getting a boost, other than the elite countries i.e. Australia could have.
Mexico, Italy, France and Germany (first was as West Germany) have hosted it twice.
It's the WORLD cup after all, so all countries should be considered, and not just handed to England or other European powerhouses just because they are the elite.
That is a really, really terrible way to decide the hosts. It should be given to whoever puts the best bid together.
FIFA is right in thinking about 'Legacy' and long term benefits.
The World Cup should be spread around the world, like it did in 2002 to S Korea and Japan/ South Africa, broadening it's hosting, other than just having predominately in Europe.
Brazil were right to get it, South American football is good and they love the game too.
Qatar probably too, providing they can sort out the heat/cooling issues.
Russia too deserved it having not had it, their leagues and teams quality improving.
Would like to see it in Oz, Greece/more southern eastern europe i.e. Croatia/Hungary/Bulgaria etc. Another South American country like Argentina/Chile/Peru...
Berkovic_blue said:Slicker than Sommeil said:Berkovic_blue said:That is a really, really terrible way to decide the hosts. It should be given to whoever puts the best bid together.
FIFA is right in thinking about 'Legacy' and long term benefits.
The World Cup should be spread around the world, like it did in 2002 to S Korea and Japan/ South Africa, broadening it's hosting, other than just having predominately in Europe.
Brazil were right to get it, South American football is good and they love the game too.
Qatar probably too, providing they can sort out the heat/cooling issues.
Russia too deserved it having not had it, their leagues and teams quality improving.
Would like to see it in Oz, Greece/more southern eastern europe i.e. Croatia/Hungary/Bulgaria etc. Another South American country like Argentina/Chile/Peru...
Trying to justify the Qatar selection does not do much for your credibility. 2022 clearly should've gone to Australia. The Russian bid was not impressive at all either, it's almost entirely based on stuff they don't have at the moment. The country is also huge and from what I hear not the easiest to travel around as the transport network is shit.
FIFA really don't care about giving anyone a legacy, they care about who will let them dictate the law while the tournament is on and where they can make the most money.