16 | Rodri - 2021/22 Performances

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I like him too,and the criticism is definitely OTT and unjustified.

But.....there is definitely a part of his game that doesn't quite hit the heights,and that is what attracts his detractors.
People of bluemoon well some only like to look for anything negative, as a dm for us the way we play I think he is excellent ,I would like an opposite of rodri a midfield destroyer when the game dictates, thinking a nigel de jong clone
 
People of bluemoon well some only like to look for anything negative, as a dm for us the way we play I think he is excellent ,I would like an opposite of rodri a midfield destroyer when the game dictates, thinking a nigel de jong clone
You ideally want a mix, kind of like we already have. Most of the time under Pep you want a Rodri type, but there'll be some games where it might be advantageous to have someone in there who can cause a bit of nuisance.

Under Pep we're never going to get the Kanté type, but Fernandinho is the ideal middle ground between metronome and destroyer when necessary.
 
You ideally want a mix, kind of like we already have. Most of the time under Pep you want a Rodri type, but they'll be some games where it might be advantageous to have someone in there who can cause a bit of nuisance.

Under Pep we're never going to get the Kanté type, but Fernandinho is the ideal middle ground between metronome and destroyer when necessary.
We have that at rb power and pace with the aggressive walker, then the skills of cancelo, it's perfect for different oppos, same as the dm should be imo
 
I like him too,and the criticism is definitely OTT and unjustified.

But.....there is definitely a part of his game that doesn't quite hit the heights,and that is what attracts his detractors.

He's one of those players whose qualities are often under-appreciated, and whose weaknesses are frequently exaggerated and over-analysed. Gündy had it for years, Mahrez too.

It's often the same perceived weaknesses that detractors fixate on too (some combination of being slow, weak, unwilling to put their foot in, lack of aggression etc.). You sometimes get the impression that people would genuinely rather watch Danny Tiatto than some of our current players
 
He's one of those players whose qualities are often under-appreciated, and whose weaknesses are frequently exaggerated and over-analysed. Gündy had it for years, Mahrez too.

It's often the same perceived weaknesses that detractors fixate on too (some combination of being slow, weak, unwilling to put their foot in, lack of aggression etc.). You sometimes get the impression that people would genuinely rather watch Danny Tiatto than some of our current players
While you make a fair point in your first paragraph,the weaknesses you describe,and attempt to palm off,as perceived,are to many what they recognise as fact.To fixate on such is frustrating,but also understandable,as they are the issues that cause us problems and allow the opposition to gain an advantage.

Rodri is a wonderful talent with many strengths and a skillset that allows us to play the way Pep preaches,but i,and others,believe we could find better, and that is why he provokes such debate.

I loved watching Tiatto,but i didnt need to tell you that ;-)
 
While you make a fair point in your first paragraph,the weaknesses you describe,and attempt to palm off,as perceived,are to many what they recognise as fact.To fixate on such is frustrating,but also understandable,as they are the issues that cause us problems and allow the opposition to gain an advantage.

Rodri is a wonderful talent with many strengths and a skillset that allows us to play the way Pep preaches,but i,and others,believe we could find better, and that is why he provokes such debate.

I loved watching Tiatto,but i didnt need to tell you that ;-)

Anyone recognising subjective opinions as fact is off to a bad start.

But otherwise, I'm with you on the second paragraph. And the third, too
 
But it IS subjective to say he’s TOO slow to do the job. Because clearly other people (like Pep) don’t hold that opinion
More to the point - Rodri at so-called DM isn't really there to break up plays and prevent counter attacks. He's there to link up play from deep and he excels at this.

Our side contains precisely one midfield destroyer - Fernandinho. A 36-year old.
 
So it would also be subjective to say Walker is fast?

Well yes, technically it would, although it's an opinion that I (and presumably the vast majority of people) would agree with.

Would Usain Bolt consider Kyle Walker fast? Maybe not.

But that isn't the point I was making, and you know that.

You can think Rodri is too slow, someone else can think otherwise, therefore it's subjective. Very simple.
 
Well yes, technically it would, although it's an opinion that I (and presumably the vast majority of people) would agree with.

Would Usain Bolt consider Kyle Walker fast? Maybe not.

But that isn't the point I was making, and you know that.

You can think Rodri is too slow, someone else can think otherwise, therefore it's subjective. Very simple.
We can go round in circles here.....and you can dress it up all you want,but Rodri is slow as is proven in games where players run past him and he cant recover.

Its a big weakness in his game and ours.
 
We can go round in circles here.....and you can dress it up all you want,but Rodri is slow as is proven in games where players run past him and he cant recover.

Its a big weakness in his game and ours.

I can't think of a player in the world who wouldn't benefit from being quicker. Rodri's qualities more than make up for his relative lack of pace, in my opinion.
 
Rodri's qualities more than make up for his relative lack of pace, in my opinion.
Strange if you're still saying that the next time he is left for dead and we are put under huge pressure or even concede as a result.

A world class DM does not let that happen,or is capable of preventing such/recovering.

As i said earlier,he is a very good player,i was hoping we could have found better though.
 
Strange if you're still saying that the next time he is left for dead and we are put under huge pressure or even concede as a result.

A world class DM does not let that happen,or is capable of preventing such/recovering.

As i said earlier,he is a very good player,i was hoping we could have found better though.

Meh, Busquets was never quick. Or Xabi Alonso. Or Jorginho. Or Guardiola. They all seem to cope fine with playing the role.
 
A team is a blend of strengths because no player in the history of world football had every skill in the game. Simply, Rodri is one of the best midfielders in world football, in my view. Only on Bluemoon, after back-to-back 5-0 wins in which he has been one of the fulcrums of our performance, could there still be conjecture about such a player.
 
More to the point - Rodri at so-called DM isn't really there to break up plays and prevent counter attacks. He's there to link up play from deep and he excels at this.

Our side contains precisely one midfield destroyer - Fernandinho. A 36-year old.
Rodri does break up plays, does prevent counter attacks, does link up play from deep in both halves, maybe Pep has a broader opinion of his role and plays him because he fulfils the role Pep sees. At his best Ferna was much more than a midfield destroyer and much more than what you term a "so-called DM".
 
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