Lavinda Past
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I think he will stay in league
United might offer him a good contract
He'd probably take it... Scruffy Jim is probably working on a fresh batch of redundancies as we speak
I think he will stay in league
United might offer him a good contract
Everybody else has had to play ipswich too. We haven't been competitive in big games, we haven't been able to even get the ball into dangerous areas in those games and nobody else in a city shirt has done anything against them either. Kdb can still, has and will produce in the right environment, i.e giving him the ball in dangerous positions with targets to aim for.3 of his 6 league assists were against Ipswich across two fixtures we won 10-1 on aggregate. Aside from that, he got one in early December against Forest (a game in which he was excellent), one in a 4-1 win against West Ham, and one in the 2-2 draw with Brentford
He hasn't really affected any big games for us this season, and never looked like doing so yesterday
If something 'goes' in your hip, pelvic, glute, even hamstring area, at a certain age, everything goes skewed.That's the thing that gets me. I can understand a players legs going but the ability to make a pass? You'd think that was the last thing he'd lose.
I just haven’t seen much evidence of that being true. He received the ball in good areas a number of times yesterday and failed to execute with both through balls to Marmoush and with crosses into the boxEverybody else has had to play ipswich too. We haven't been competitive in big games, we haven't been able to even get the ball into dangerous areas in those games and nobody else in a city shirt has done anything against them either. Kdb can still, has and will produce in the right environment, i.e giving him the ball in dangerous positions with targets to aim for.
I can think of 1 time he was in a good position with a reachable target that was when Nunes slide him in down the side, his ball wasn't good and was overhit, perhaps hes used to haaland who might have got on to it if we're being generous.I just haven’t seen much evidence of that being true. He received the ball in good areas a number of times yesterday and failed to execute with both through balls to Marmoush and with crosses into the box
Interesting post, cheers mate.If something 'goes' in your hip, pelvic, glute, even hamstring area, at a certain age, everything goes skewed.
Obviously I'm coming from a position of ignorance on KdB but I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years he attributes this to a long standing injury.
I've got arthritis in one hip from 35 years of footy, it developed rapidly after a bad injury 3 years ago. Everything else is OK now but when I do get to play (once a fortnight), my ball striking has completely gone. I can run, chest, mark, follow a man, header etc etc but long passes and clean shots? Nope, never come back. It's like my body is cock eyed and never healed the same, so the same striking action (in my head) is yielding a different result.
I know I'm clutching at straws, but I am baffled that Kev is struggling to shoot or make sometimes easy passes. His crossing is a bit fucked too.
He had a couple of shots yesterday that Onana gathered easily and I said out loud, five or six years ago, KDB would have hit that so sweetly, Onana would have been picking the ball out of the net. Right foot, left foot, it didn’t matter but he seems to have lost the explosive power in a shot. Injuries to the body, it has to be.If something 'goes' in your hip, pelvic, glute, even hamstring area, at a certain age, everything goes skewed.
Obviously I'm coming from a position of ignorance on KdB but I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years he attributes this to a long standing injury.
I've got arthritis in one hip from 35 years of footy, it developed rapidly after a bad injury 3 years ago. Everything else is OK now but when I do get to play (once a fortnight), my ball striking has completely gone. I can run, chest, mark, follow a man, header etc etc but long passes and clean shots? Nope, never come back. It's like my body is cock eyed and never healed the same, so the same striking action (in my head) is yielding a different result.
I know I'm clutching at straws, but I am baffled that Kev is struggling to shoot or make sometimes easy passes. His crossing is a bit fucked too.
perfect chance yesterday, Kev had the ball on the right edge of the area and Marmoush was arriving in the that 'area of uncertainty'. Kev missed the pass he would have made with his eyes closed 2 years ago and kicked it out for a goal kickSad we don't progress the ball quick enough or have enough movement in the box to get back to this. Hard to get the best out of KdB when we let the buses get parked and we don't take advantage of the space available after we defend counterattacks against us.
Yep, it has to be, all the sweet connection - as you say - has disappeared. I have no memory of this being the case last season? It may have been and I wasn't paying it any mind, but it feels like a sudden onset. Like permanent yips caused by some injury in the core area.He had a couple of shots yesterday that Onana gathered easily and I said out loud, five or six years ago, KDB would have hit that so sweetly, Onana would have been picking the ball out of the net. Right foot, left foot, it didn’t matter but he seems to have lost the explosive power in a shot. Injuries to the body, it has to be.
He had a couple of shots yesterday that Onana gathered easily and I said out loud, five or six years ago, KDB would have hit that so sweetly, Onana would have been picking the ball out of the net. Right foot, left foot, it didn’t matter but he seems to have lost the explosive power in a shot. Injuries to the body, it has to be.
Still blows my mind that Vinnie went out with a domestic treble and one of the all time great premier league goals. Talk about storybook. It's just not how 99.9% of any sportspeople finish their careers.Of course it is
I had disagreements on here last season because I said after his long injury that you'll never see the old KDB again. You can't get that kind of injury approaching mid 30s and be the same player again.
Some said getting him back fully fit will be like a new signing. A lot of wishful thinking not based in reality.
He's shot to bits at the very top level. You can't be great forever, that's the life of an athlete, no matter how phenomenal you once were or what sport it is.
Still blows my mind that Vinnie went out with a domestic treble and one of the all time great premier league goals. Talk about storybook. It's just not how 99.9% of any sportspeople finish their careers.
Are you available for Saturday?If something 'goes' in your hip, pelvic, glute, even hamstring area, at a certain age, everything goes skewed.
Obviously I'm coming from a position of ignorance on KdB but I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years he attributes this to a long standing injury.
I've got arthritis in one hip from 35 years of footy, it developed rapidly after a bad injury 3 years ago. Everything else is OK now but when I do get to play (once a fortnight), my ball striking has completely gone. I can run, chest, mark, follow a man, header etc etc but long passes and clean shots? Nope, never come back. It's like my body is cock eyed and never healed the same, so the same striking action (in my head) is yielding a different result.
I know I'm clutching at straws, but I am baffled that Kev is struggling to shoot or make sometimes easy passes. His crossing is a bit fucked too.
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Agree mate, this is what baffles me. He was the purest striker of the ball. He made it do exactly what he wanted. Not being able to run the 100 in 13 seconds or be quick over 30 yards should remove that ability. Its a weird one.The puzzling thing is the likes of Pirlo could still pick a wonderful pass even when reduced to walking pace. KDB is/was at least as good as him. My take is he’s run into a patch of shit form, on top of the fitness and abeing issues, possibly aggravated by worries about his and his family’s future.
With a proper break and reset, plus judicious game management, he can probably do a decent but limited job for someone again. I think the club has made the right decision to let that happen in a new environment.
Difference is that Pirlo always played walking football while kdb did everything in motion. Yes, there is a differenceThe puzzling thing is the likes of Pirlo could still pick a wonderful pass even when reduced to walking pace. KDB is/was at least as good as him. My take is he’s run into a patch of shit form, on top of the fitness and abeing issues, possibly aggravated by worries about his and his family’s future.
With a proper break and reset, plus judicious game management, he can probably do a decent but limited job for someone again. I think the club has made the right decision to let that happen in a new environment.